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By Hong Wu
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The post might have gotten deleted or I can't remember where I posted it, but I had suggested that Strzok's bad attitude was going to result in more released text messages. Of course, it might have happened anyway... the latest is quite interesting.

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Further evidence that Obama's white house was in on this whole thing and that the Russiagate thing, which currently seems to be arguing that Trump was kompromatted in '87 by the Soviet Union and released Manchurian Candidate-style by the Russian Federation in 2016, is just an artificial attempt to take down a sitting president.
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By Godstud
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"Whataboutism". That's all this is. Nevermind what Obama did. What Trump is doing now, is what's important.
By Rich
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Godstud wrote:"Whataboutism". That's all this is. Nevermind what Obama did. What Trump is doing now, is what's important.

Trump is working for world peace, whilst the forces of Jewish supremacist Zionism and the useful idiots that they have manipulated seek to stoke war with Russia. Islam (particularly full Sunni Islam), China and North Korea are our real enemmies not Putin who is actually one of the West's true friends.

What about the fact that Trump is completely innocent and that it is Obama who is the traitor, who belongs in a prison cell.
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By Godstud
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@Rich You can childishly claim Trump is innocent until the cows come home, but Russia is NOT innocent.
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Rich wrote:Trump is working for world peace, whilst the forces of Jewish supremacist Zionism and the useful idiots that they have manipulated seek to stoke war with Russia. Islam (particularly full Sunni Islam), China and North Korea are our real enemmies not Putin who is actually one of the West's true friends.

What about the fact that Trump is completely innocent and that it is Obama who is the traitor, who belongs in a prison cell.


The first country Trump visited as president was Saudi Arabia, the second Israel.

There exists no friends nor enemies in international politics, only divergent interests and willingness to work with ANYONE in order to achieve them.
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Nothing totally insane about wanting war with Russia over some tweets. Trump is such a traitor. Doesn’t he understand how much those tweets hurt?
Using mud slinging internal politics to determine foreign affairs is friggin’ stupid.
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By Godstud
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@One Degree :roll: No one is suggesting war. Trump's practically dismissed what Russia did, and that should not be done. Why would you be OK with Russia tampering with your electoral system? :?:
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Godstud wrote:@One Degree :roll: No one is suggesting war. Trump's practically dismissed what Russia did, and that should not be done. Why would you be OK with Russia tampering with your electoral system? :?:


Lots of reasons. It is naive to expect they have not always done so. Most of the time Democrats were their willing accomplices. The US is the most guilty of any nation of doing so, so it is unbelievable hypocrisy to be upset at Russia. There is no evidence of anything that had any real effect. No one based their vote on Russian tweets. Even if the worse case scenario is true, the solution is found in closer relations with Russia, not antagonism.
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By Godstud
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Whether they have done so before or not does not mean that this should not be condemned. Any other President would have stood up for America. Your love of trump is showing through once again, as you support him, no matter what dumb things he does.
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Godstud wrote:Whether they have done so before or not does not mean that this should not be condemned. Any other President would have stood up for America. Your love of trump is showing through once again, as you support him, no matter what dumb things he does.


I haven’t seen any evidence he is doing anything dumb. Just accusations based upon biased speculation. What do you expect to be gained by being adversarial to Russia? Do you understand Russia is still seen as the difference in balance of power based upon their friendship with China or the West? Pushing them away is not in our best interests. Anyone who thinks sanctions against Russia will force them to do anything is ignorant of history.
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By Hong Wu
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It isn't whataboutism just because Obama gets mentioned you know...

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Source in congress are claiming that Lisa Page is basically pleading guilty and contradicting Strzok's testimony. This is believable since she didn't even want to testify at first; I guess she feels pretty guilty and/or scared. The latest text messages were coming from her and not from Strzok, so perhaps she feels more up the creek than he does over it.
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By jimjam
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Too bad Donald wasn't president when Pearl Harbor was bombed. "We feel that both the United States and Japan are at fault. Our Pacific fleet obviously was a provocation to the Empire of Japan which we profoundly regret. The fake news surrounding this event MUST STOP. Free speech is the enemy of America." D.Trump
By Rich
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jimjam wrote:Too bad Donald wasn't president when Pearl Harbor was bombed. "We feel that both the United States and Japan are at fault. Our Pacific fleet obviously was a provocation to the Empire of Japan which we profoundly regret. The fake news surrounding this event MUST STOP. Free speech is the enemy of America." D.Trump

Sorry I must have missed Russia bombing an American naval base.

Hilary was a liar. She got exposed. She lost. I doubt the Russian government was anything to do with it, but if they were, they should be praised. What about all the American posters who comment on British issues on this forum, should they be imprisoned for trying to hack the British election. These claims of Russian hacking the election are absurd.

What really gets me is the hypocrites who've been whining for years about false intelligence over Iraq, who now will believe any Zionist nonsense these spy agencies throw up. The Zionists are not happy with Russia for helping Assad to win. They were fine with Russia saving Assad from defeat, but the war was meant to go on and on like the Iran- Iraq, tying up Iranian and Hezbollah forces.
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Godstud wrote:You can childishly claim Trump is innocent until the cows come home, but Russia is NOT innocent.

They have not been proven guilty in a court of law yet, so they are presumed innocent for the purposes of criminal law.

Godstud wrote:Trump's practically dismissed what Russia did, and that should not be done.

We are only dealing with allegations. It has not been proven in a court of law yet.

Godstud wrote:Any other President would have stood up for America.

This allegedly happened under Barack Obama's watch, not Trump's. Obama told Russia to "knock it off." He then told Trump to quit whining about rigged elections and make a case for votes. Then, Trump won and the deep state started whining.

Rich wrote:Hilary was a liar. She got exposed. She lost.

She's a living dead zombie anyway. I don't see why they are so invested in that stench of a woman. She lost to Obama too. People would prefer a gay black man to Hillary Clinton.

Rich wrote:What about all the American posters who comment on British issues on this forum, should they be imprisoned for trying to hack the British election.

What about Canadian expats living under a military government in Thailand who are utterly obsessed with US politics? They are trying to hack our elections for sure.

Rich wrote:The Zionists are not happy with Russia for helping Assad to win. They ere fine with Russia saving Assad from defeat, but the war was meant to go on and on like the Iran- Iraq, tying up Iranian and Hezbollah forces.

Yeah, and further screwing up European politics to the point where people will be clamoring for Hitlers all over Europe to undo the mess that Merkel created.
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By Godstud
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blackjack21 wrote:They have not been proven guilty in a court of law yet, so they are presumed innocent for the purposes of criminal law.
They don't need to be guilty as far as criminal law is concerned, though. Your argument fails, because of this. The intelligence agencies have plenty of evidence that Russia did this, and you're just childishly denying it, because of your infatuation with Trump and his handler, Putin.

blackjack21 wrote:We are only dealing with allegations. It has not been proven in a court of law yet.
Irrelevant. It's not about going to court.

blackjack21 wrote:This allegedly happened under Barack Obama's watch, not Trump's. Obama told Russia to "knock it off." He then told Trump to quit whining about rigged elections and make a case for votes. Then, Trump won and the deep state started whining.
Divert. Distract. Lie.

Deep state is a conspiracy theory, so I give it as much as it's due: :lol: :lol: :lol:
By B0ycey
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Lovin' Trumps back-peddlin'. Would instead of wouldn't. Genius. Who is he trying to kid? He would have been better off keeping his mouth shut. :lol:

Anyway, we can eliminate that he is a stooge. He is just an idiot. :lol:
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It’s more like Trump tells the truth and then he is reminded he is suppose to lie to support the big lies the establishment depends upon. The American people must believe our intelligence agencies are made up of geniuses despite the evidence they are just ignorant bureaucrats stumbling around in the dark.
Our ‘peace of mind’ depends upon believing those in power are superior to us despite all the evidence to the contrary. The CIA can be well intentioned and incompetent at the same time because they are just as clueless as everyone else.
Therefore, I see no contradiction in Trump’s comments. Yes, we should trust our intelligence agencies, but not blindly.
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By Beren
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B0ycey wrote:Lovin' Trumps back-peddlin'. Would instead of wouldn't. Genius. Who is he trying to kid? He would have been better off keeping his mouth shut. :lol:

He obviously had to say something and what else could he have said?

B0ycey wrote:Anyway, we can eliminate that he is a stooge. He is just an idiot. :lol:

Or both.
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By jimjam
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B0ycey wrote:Lovin' Trumps back-peddlin'. Would instead of wouldn't. Genius. Who is he trying to kid? He would have been better off keeping his mouth shut. :lol:

Anyway, we can eliminate that he is a stooge. He is just an idiot. :lol:


Wait a minute … isn't it "wouldn't" instead of "would" …. ? :lol: After all, this has to stand up in a "court of law".

And …. THIS JUST IN: the janitor at Helsinki has just gone public with Vladimir's notes which he found in the waste basket where it was noted that Donald was given the O.K. for building Trump Tower Moscow immediately after leaving his day job as POTUS. 120 stories tall with, of course, "TRUMP" emblazoned at the summit tastefully done in Russian red tones.
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jimjam wrote:Wait a minute … isn't it "wouldn't" instead of "would" …. ? :lol: After all, this has to stand up in a "court of law".

And …. THIS JUST IN: the janitor at Helsinki has just gone public with Vladimir's notes which he found in the waste basket where it was noted that Donald was given the O.K. for building Trump Tower Moscow immediately after leaving his day job as POTUS. 120 stories tall with, of course, "TRUMP" emblazoned at the summit tastefully done in Russian red tones.


You really should source such sensationalism. I am assuming this was an attempt at humor? Or have you become addicted to Twitter? :)
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