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Beren wrote:Tommy Robinson will find support because a massive propaganda machine is behind him. How is a notorious criminal going after other criminals and calling them out for their crimes and religion a serious issue anyway? It's absurd. He also broke the law and got arrested while doing so, thus he's in prison as he should be. Only stupid people find that heroic.


Beren, he's misguided but why is he the only one to have addressed the subject in a serious way (however incorrect his analysis is)?

The police and Labour party did absolutely nothing about these gangs. And the far left said nothing either.

So what is to be said?

I don't think it would be possible in your country. I think Hungarians will not stand idly by while something like that happened. But in England people are afraid of questioning their bosses or doing anything which might break conformity. They're a very conformist nation of people. Hence why police and Labour establishment did nothing in Rotherham for example.
#14933594
If the police had done nothing why was there a trail? SO you are factually wrong that the police had done nothing. Robinson only did something after the authorities had already acted and charged people. Robinson's actions had the potential to cause a mis trail or allow the perpetrators to avoid conviction , he was jailed for contempt of court for publishing material that could have been seen a prejudicial to the trail process.

As people were charged and there was a trail, you claim that Robinson was ther only one doing anything is complete and utterly wrong.
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Political Interest wrote:People like Tommy Robinson will find support because the centre and left failed them. That is why.

Why was it the BNP and other far right parties who uncovered the sex gangs?

It should have been the communists and Labour.

Champagne socialists don't live among the victims and perpetrators.

pugsville wrote:If the police had done nothing why was there a trail? SO you are factually wrong that the police had done nothing. Robinson only did something after the authorities had already acted and charged people. Robinson's actions had the potential to cause a mis trail or allow the perpetrators to avoid conviction , he was jailed for contempt of court for publishing material that could have been seen a prejudicial to the trail process.

As people were charged and there was a trail, you claim that Robinson was ther only one doing anything is complete and utterly wrong.

It's quite telling that the need to denounce Robinson and the right is so strong that you go as far as defending the police and their role in this travesty. The police knew just as social services, the council and the home office knew, and none of them did anything (in some cases for at least 2 decades) to protect the victims or bring the perpetrators to justice.

Your argument amounts to saying that their knowledge is evidence for them doing something, when any reasonable person would come to the opposite conclusion.
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Kaiserschmarrn wrote:Champagne socialists don't live among the victims and perpetrators.


It is strange that they did not want to address this subject when they could easily have done so in leftist terms through left wing ideological analysis. But they did not even attempt do to that.
#14934455
@Political Interest, that is because this has nothing to do with freedom of speech, or even correcting injustice.
#14934468
Kaiserschmarrn wrote:Champagne socialists don't live among the victims and perpetrators.


It's quite telling that the need to denounce Robinson and the right is so strong that you go as far as defending the police and their role in this travesty. The police knew just as social services, the council and the home office knew, and none of them did anything (in some cases for at least 2 decades) to protect the victims or bring the perpetrators to justice.

Your argument amounts to saying that their knowledge is evidence for them doing something, when any reasonable person would come to the opposite conclusion.


Yet they had acted. Pople were charged. To say nothing had been done was factually incorrect,

Still does not change the basic facts. Police had charged people , there was a trail underway. The police whatever their faults had acted, someone saying they hd done nothing was clearly distorting the truth. Robinson did not uncover anything but took action that could have lead to a mistrial,
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Godstud wrote:that is because this has nothing to do with freedom of speech, or even correcting injustice.


Grooming gangs are not an issue of correcting injustice?

Only the far right addressed this subject and campaigned about it. This was a loss for most of the left who said very little by comparison.
#14934507
The courts were already prosecuting them. Tommy Robinson's actions could have put those trials in jeopardy of being declared mis-trials. Robinson was working against the justice system, and knew it.
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Political Interest wrote:Grooming gangs are not an issue of correcting injustice?

Only the far right addressed this subject and campaigned about it. This was a loss for most of the left who said very little by comparison.

Simply Wrong. Th Right campaigned about AFTER people were charged. The Police for all their earlier non action were acting.

The Far Right were seeking to politically grand stand, and score political even at the cost of causes a mistrial and letting the abusers get off. the Far Right don't care about the abuse. Notice their silence of church abuse.
#14936555
Tommy Robinson bailed after Court of Appeal win

Former English Defence League (EDL) leader Tommy Robinson has been released on bail after winning an appeal against a contempt of court finding.

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Court rule that his conviction was not appropriate because of procedural reasons. Well dughhh.


Tommy is free! Freeeee! Fere!


Edit:
The funny thing is, is that today I finally made a Free Tommy sig for myself.
Last edited by Albert on 02 Aug 2018 00:42, edited 2 times in total.
#14936558
A well-deserved outcome, and a bit of shame on the trial judge for conducting himself like a third-world thug. There are better ways to address these sorts of issues, like jury sequestration as is done in the US. People should be free to express their views.
#14936559
Good, so now STFU about this stupid twat! He's no hero. He's an asshole.
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@blackjack21
They even admitted themselves they did not follow proper legal due process. Which kinda puts all the people to shame who were arguing (the state propaganda) that Robinson was jailed within the proper legal means.
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Godstud wrote:Good, so now STFU about this stupid twat! He's no hero. He's an asshole.

He's an heroic figure. He forced the establishment of the UK to show who they really represented, and it isn't the people of the UK. All over the world now, the globalists are being revealed as tyrants.

Albert wrote:@blackjack21
They even admitted themselves they did not follow proper legal due process. Which kinda puts all the people to shame who were arguing (the state propaganda) that Robinson was jailed within the proper legal means.

Arresting someone and giving them 30 minutes to prepare a case is clearly unfair. I'm sure that's why Godstud champions the UK trial court in this case. Of course, he lives under a military government by choice.
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: He broke the conditions of his suspended sentence. They only made a mistake in processing. He still would be in jail if someone didn't make a bureaucratic mistake. He's LUCKY, and if he's as far from heroic as you can get. :knife:
#14936599
snapdragon wrote:He's been warned he could be facing an even longer sentence.

Two years instead of one.

Contempt of Court Act 1981 wrote:Proceedings in England and Wales.

(1) In any case where a court has power to commit a person to prison for contempt of court and (apart from this provision) no limitation applies to the period of committal, the committal shall (without prejudice to the power of the court to order his earlier discharge) be for a fixed term, and that term shall not on any occasion exceed two years in the case of committal by a superior court, or one month in the case of committal by an inferior court.


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