You replied to my commentary concerning (at the very least) the impossibility of Socialism without death and hardship to millions, that;
I said ''people'', and that includes but by no means excludes anyone outside the working classes. Have you abstracted everyone else out of their humanity?
You incorrectly assume I am treating people other than working class people as non-humans. In the context of socialism helping the US (which is what I was discussing) I already said that socialism would not help the rich and powerful, but would help the working class.
So, rather than assume the worst of me, you should have noticed that I had already discussed what would happen to non-working class people and that I was neither ignoring nor dehumanising them.
Not only that, but you claim that ''many'' countries have made the transition to Socialism without significant problems. I find that hard to believe POD, so i'd like to ask you to name even a single one of those countries that have done so, without problems for the working classes.
Grenada under the PRG.
If we include countries where the problems for the working class have been solely due to the entrenched forces of capitalism oppressing the working class, we can add Cuba, Nicaragua under the FSLN, Chiapas under the Zapatistas, and many more.
And those are just the revolutionary movements.
If we also include democratic socialist movements that have been elected, we have Chile under Allende, Nicaragua under the FSLN (again), Bolivia, Ecuador, El Salvador, and Uruguay.
I am limiting the discussion here to Latin America, but other examples exist.