Oxymandias wrote:Except that there are ways to give corporate entities to be capable of suing or being sued without giving them the status of person. You can give a corporation the same legal capacity to contract as a person without giving them all the other rights a person has since no one will state that a corporation is actually a person, as in, an individual human being. Based on this, there is no reason to justify this law.
Why don't your start a list of what rights a corporation has that you would strip? If you would strip them from a corporation, why wouldn't you strip them from an individual too?
Oxymandias wrote:Except that corporations have utility motivations (i.e. profit) that undermine existing political systems.
So your issue is with for-profit corporations? As I have said, in America a local city is a corporation. A lot of people do not think this way, but that is a fact. America's constitution looks a lot like a corporate charter. We have lots of non-profit corporations as well. Universities are corporations, but you do not seem to be railing against them. Government agencies are corporations. For example, the Environmental Protection Agency is a corporation. Do you realize that, or am I conducting a class on corporate law right now?
Oxymandias wrote:Citizens don't act as political active citizens in a corporation, they act as employees in coordination with a larger hierarchy whose goal is profit.
Employee isn't the only role. There are also officers and directors. They act on behalf of the shareholders.
Oxymandias wrote:Corporations aren't suited to interfering in political matters since their motivations do not always correlate with public interests.
Again, you need to be clear about what you are objecting to. The IRS is a corporation. It fulfills a government function, but it is a corporation. Municipal corporations facilitate political matters. That's what they do.
5 U.S. Code § 103 - Government corporationSince roughly the Roosevelt Era, much of the United States government runs under administrative law, where Congress delegates powers to corporations called "agencies." These agencies are corporations which promulgate regulations that have the force and effect of law subject to the powers delegated to them and by the provisions of the Administrative Procedures Act, among other legislation.
So for example, if the IRS or the EPA sue you, they are suing you in their corporate name as a corporate person.
Oxymandias wrote:No, it isn't. A city isn't a corporation and I don't know how you can say that.
I can say that, because it is a corporation.
Oxymandias wrote:Furthermore, the city itself (along with the local government which runs it) doesn't not participate in the political system.
The local government is a municipal corporation. It is most definitely a corporation. Corporations do not have the right to vote for members of the legislature or the executive, but that doesn't mean they do not have any role in politics.
Oxymandias wrote:However that doesn't mean it should participate in the political system. Corporate interests do not always align with public interests.
Many corporations are created in furtherance of the public interest. A water company is an example.
Oxymandias wrote:Yes, and because they aren't public the US is in the mess that it's in.
I'm not sure what you mean? Most universities are not publicly traded for profit. Most are run as non-profit organizations. Some are created by the government. Some are private. The US has many varieties of universities.
Oxymandias wrote:Universities in the US are more concerned about profit than they are about actually educating their own students or the general population. This is an amazing example of why corporate interests do not always align with public ones.
Non-profit organizations are not concerned about profit, but they are most certainly concerned about money. That's very often why corporations are formed--resource pooling.
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