- 15 Oct 2018 17:15
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I don't care about his position, or your interpretation of it, we are discussing what is necessary for the revolution and what the libertarian-right wants and seeing if they are similar (in regards to weapons).
They are.
Please quote where I said that they should.
I do believe I specifically stated that consistent leftists would have views commensurate to that of what a broad interpretation of that amendment would imply. Period.
I think such should be privately owned and have stated that several times on this thread, so I am not speaking about hunting rifles. I have stated several times that I am referring to military grade weapons.
So we agree then that both right-wing libertarians and communists would support the average person having military grade weapons?
Good.
The current government is a state, so from my worldview it is both incompatible with capitalism and is also my enemy.
So we agree then that both of us don't like the current government and want to have military grade arms to resist such?
Good.
If you are only saying that you want to fight those you oppose by manipulating the state to restrict their rights, then sure, but some ancaps are cool with this sort of pragmatism as well, its called the Pinochet-Strategy.
"It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains. A vitiated state of morals... is incompatible with freedom."
- Patrick Henry
Pants-of-dog wrote:Ask @SolarCross. He was the one supporting that position.
I don't care about his position, or your interpretation of it, we are discussing what is necessary for the revolution and what the libertarian-right wants and seeing if they are similar (in regards to weapons).
They are.
Pants-of-dog wrote:Why would a leftist care about the second amendment at all?
Please quote where I said that they should.
I do believe I specifically stated that consistent leftists would have views commensurate to that of what a broad interpretation of that amendment would imply. Period.
Pants-of-dog wrote:And I am discussing WMDs and tanks and aircraft carriers. You are discussing souped up hunting rifles.
I think such should be privately owned and have stated that several times on this thread, so I am not speaking about hunting rifles. I have stated several times that I am referring to military grade weapons.
So we agree then that both right-wing libertarians and communists would support the average person having military grade weapons?
Good.
Pants-of-dog wrote:The current government is capitalist, and so are you, so the current government is not your enemy.
The current government is a state, so from my worldview it is both incompatible with capitalism and is also my enemy.
So we agree then that both of us don't like the current government and want to have military grade arms to resist such?
Good.
Pants-of-dog wrote:And I would try to keep guns out of the hands of those who oppose me, such as capitalists. I doubt an-caps would do so.
If you are only saying that you want to fight those you oppose by manipulating the state to restrict their rights, then sure, but some ancaps are cool with this sort of pragmatism as well, its called the Pinochet-Strategy.
"It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains. A vitiated state of morals... is incompatible with freedom."
- Patrick Henry