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Drlee wrote:We conservatives are humanizing the prostitutes and their customers and the so-called liberals are dehumanizing them.

Actually, being raped for money is what dehumanizes prostitutes. The "conservatives" are defending yet another form of exploitation that allows them more power over other people. If your own sister or mother starts having to receive sex from unattractive men in order to put food on the table, we can start to talk about "knowing prostitution" and what its ill effects are on self esteem and dignity.

none of you has a fucking clue what the disease even is.

I have already mentioned the sick desire of elites to control the sexuality of their servants (us) the same way that animal herders control the sexuality of their cattle as a probable cause of all kinds of pain inducing behaviors. The suicidal gluttony of our sexually controlled societies springs to mind as a possible end-of-our-species side effect that prostitute-enablers don't want to touch because they just want to find a way to make money out of misery, rather than get rid of the original misery that causes many other problems.

And of course, there are always helpful stats out there to defend "making a buck" off of anything. That's what stats are for: making money. Just like vaginas are, according to VS and his sleazy statistics.
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QatzelOk wrote:Actually, being raped for money is what dehumanizes prostitutes.


Ummm. That's not rape.

Rape is sex without consent. A person being payed for sex is being payed for consent, and therefore this is not rape.



Bree Olson discussing what it's like for a former sex worker to look for a job in the outside left-leaning world where "normal people" judge you for being sex worker and treat you like a criminal pervert. It's a bitch. Ultimately the call to return to sex work, because that's the only way you can get a job, is very strong and you have to learn to ignore it.

If your own sister or mother starts having to receive sex from unattractive men in order to put food on the table, we can start to talk about "knowing prostitution" and what its ill effects are on self esteem and dignity.


Bree didn't have self esteem and dignity issues until she retired and tried to get a job in the outside world. Might be a porn star, but still a sex worker too and basically an on camera prostitute.

Sad she can't even get job being a nurse, or any job working with children, or any office job. The stigma on the industry's workers should be removed. It is a shame. A lot have probably killed themselves trying to escape the Industry they got into because "it's a job with good money".
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colliric wrote:Bree Olson discussing what it's like for a former sex worker to look for a job in the outside left-leaning world where "normal people" judge you for being sex worker and treat you like a criminal pervert. It's a bitch.

People don't necessarily even know if one was once paid to have sex with people. So the "judgement" that she seems to feel might be a sign of a mental distress. Rape victims often feel like they're being "judged for their crimes" all the time as well. It's a miserable state of mind.

Being paid for an atrocity doesn't make it less of an atrocity. You can virtue-signal by posting vids of ex-prostitutes, but if you ever had to let men have their way with you to pay for drugs, food, or rent, you might be posting different videos with different input as to "effects of self-exploitation."

Selling one's orifices to ugly strangers to do whatever with, makes all the dead-end, isolated and unstable nowhere jobs that most people do for a living seem... normal. In comparison.

Maybe that's the purpose of this "let's neo-liberalize women's bodies in the marketplace" meme.
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QatzelOk wrote:People don't necessarily even know if one was once paid to have sex with people. So the "judgement" that she seems to feel might be a sign of a mental distress. Rape victims often feel like they're being "judged for their crimes" all the time as well. It's a miserable state of mind.


It's difficult to scrub shit from the internet and people do look shit up. Obviously she was also talking from a former pornstar point of view.
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colliric wrote:It's difficult to scrub shit from the internet and people do look shit up. Obviously she was also talking from a former pornstar point of view.

So she was also traumatized by how exposed being in porn made her?

Sounds like a great profession for a niece you really care about. Porn star.

Or is this only a good choice of employment for other classes? :eh:
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QatzelOk wrote:If your own sister or mother starts having to receive sex from unattractive men in order to put food on the table

Which leaves me with the question : what should unattractive men do to get sex ?
I take exception at your categorisation of men as "Unattractive".
Do you mean the looks ?
Or their age ?
Or their wealth ?

What about their self esteem ?
#14954559
Ter wrote:Which leaves me with the question : what should unattractive men do to get sex ?
I take exception at your categorisation of men as "Unattractive".
Do you mean the looks ?
Or their age ?
Or their wealth ?

What about their self esteem ?

By "unattractive men," I meant "unattractive to the prostitute." Not someone he/she would ever naturally sleep with or allow to penetrate or humiliate. I might find him gorgeous, but then, he wouldn't have to pay me or rape me.

Likewise, the rapist is a man who is "unattractive" to the woman he rapes at that moment.

The same "unattractivity" is what makes rape rape, and prostitution prostitution.

Both of these unattractive expressions of sexual dysfunction are caused by a much deeper problem. Which is why the attempts to "regulate" rape with cash.... seem so empty and obviously teinted with class callousness.

Abrahamic religions gave us sexual regulation, and it also gave us rape and prostitution. And homophobia. And circumcision. And self flogging. etc.

Prostitution seems like yet another way to buy Indulgencies from a corrupt moral leadership.
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It is not rape if it is consensual. The very definition of rape is to have sex without consent. If a woman consents to sex for a leg up at a job, hope to get a part in a movie, for money, because she thinks the guy is hot, or because she likes a man, it's not rape.

Minimizing the harm prostitution does to the sex worker is the goal. I doubt eradication of prostitution is possible. To label it rape, however, is inherently dishonest.

Prostitution is consent to have sex for money.
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Hong Wu wrote:If a woman has to have sex to get a job, it's a sign of the patriarchy, which means it's rape. Silly Godstud, you little Nazi.

Likewise, if she has to have sex to food on the table, or to pay her rent, or to pay for her children's daycare. Having to indulge in undesired sex for these basics is rape.

Being force into sex because you are too weak to defend yourself.... is another common thing to both prostititution/rape.

Godstud wrote:If there is consent, there is no rape
.

You can't call it "consent" when a waterboarded person says "Okay, penetrate my nose with that banana." It's the same thing when people are tortured by poverty or drug addiction, and resort to prostitution. They aren't "consenting" in any meaningful sense of the word because their agency has been eliminated by other forces.
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SJW of the Week wrote:You can't call it "consent" when a waterboarded person says "Okay, penetrate my nose with that banana." It's the same thing when people are tortured by poverty or drug addiction, and resort to prostitution. They aren't "consenting" in any meaningful sense of the word because their agency has been eliminated by other forces.
:roll: No one is holding a gun to their head, and you know it. You'd like to absolve people of all personal responsibility, wouldn't you? Poverty and drug addiction do not remove consent, nor do they remove personal liability. That is why robbing banks and selling drugs are illegal. Maybe you should actually compose a rational argument before posting tripe like that.
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Hong Wu wrote: And here we see the liberal moving to support personal responsibility because it leads to more sex acts. This is the only time this particular tribe takes this position and it is truly a sight to behold.
If you think that liberals don't understand personal responsibility, you're not as smart as I gave you credit for being.

Considering that you were calling me a few posts ago, I know you're simply trolling. Do you have anything useful to add, or is it just childish jabs, today?
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Godstud wrote:If you think that liberals don't understand personal responsibility, you're not as smart as I gave you credit for being.

Considering that you were calling me a few posts ago, I know you're simply trolling. Do you have anything useful to add, or is it just childish jabs, today?

[upper class British accent] When cornered, even a liberal will bare his fangs. Calling someone else childish may not intimidate larger predators but it does get the message across -- this cuck will do anything to protect his bull.
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Morality arguments and/or laws are based upon the assumption all people are identical with the same motivations and desires. They aren’t. This is why morality laws should be restricted to your own community and not forced on a larger community.
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Bree didn't have self esteem and dignity issues until she retired and tried to get a job in the outside world. Might be a porn star, but still a sex worker too and basically an on camera prostitute.


I don't think she was applying for a job as a nurse, looks like she wanted to move from porn films to regular films and couldn't get much of a break because of her history as a different type of actor.

But she is typical of "sex workers" who promote the prostitution industry, who only web-cam or make porn films. Melissa Gira Godawful Grant is one of them; they shill prostitution yet rarely go into the real world and have men pay them to fuck them wherever they want and however they want, away from the screens and people. The reason why they don't do actual prostitution and then promote it, is because in reality it's not a positive experience for women (or children that are a part of this industry, whether you cry about it or not).

Rachel Moran she said she was raped for a living, she is a prostitute of many years and you're upset at her use of language? I'm more inclined to believe her over the mansplainers ITT, who promote prostitution because it can only benefit them. But, it's never their anus on sale, so I shouldn't be surprised. How about you test things a bit like scientists and put someone else's money where your...err..mouth is. Try it out for a week. Let me know how that "job like any other" is working out for you, whether you find it empowering and such.

Still weird to see people get sanctimonious against those of of us who complain about the regular rape of women and children.
#14954747
Prostitution is not rape. If a person decides to sell sex for money it is their willful choice. Yes people can be tempted by circumstances to make those bad decisions but at the end it was their responsibility.

Human trafficking where women are usually forced into prostitution is another matter, there people are raped.

You seem to conflate the two. They are not the same though. This is what I see most people here are trying to relate.
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