- 20 Oct 2018 20:20
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When compared to the last 20 years of Middle East politics? This is what gets the media upset? If that's what it took to get the media's attention they should have started killing journalists en masse back in 2001. For God sake, we've seen the migration of millions of people into Europe and the political destabilization of the EU, with a compliant media calling entire national populations racist. This does not bother them. Yet, when a Saudi journalists with ties to the Muslim Brotherhood and friendly with shitbag reporters in DC gets chopped up they fall to pieces in tears and grief? Seriously? What world are these people living in? They weren't even marginally upset by Al Qaeda offshoots in Libya killing a US ambassador, instead blaming it on a Coptic Christian Egyptian emigre and throwing him in prison for an alleged parole violation.
We understand your disdain for Donald Trump, but the US has been allied with the Saudi state since its formation. The US has been exceptionally close to Saudi Arabia since King Abdulaziz bin Abdulrahman al-Saud and Franklin Roosevelt met aboard the USS Quincy on the Great Bitter Lake in Egypt in 1945. Oil is of strategic interest to the national security of the United States. The well being of shit-disturbing Muslim Brotherhood Saudi journalists is most definitely not a national security interest of the United States.
Calling illegal aliens who murder Americans "murderers" is a bridge too far for some. Given what Trump's detractors complain about, this one seems a little odd to me. It's not like Donald Trump ordered him to be killed. Do you want him to cry crocodile tears for the Muslim Brotherhood?
The US prints the money it pays to Saudi Arabia. They return it to the US Treasury in exchange for weapons. Money isn't the primary issue. Oil and weapons are the material factors. Exporting weapons to client states was one of the methods to overcome the Triffin paradox following the closing of the Gold Window and the end of Bretton Woods. I have to figure that Jamal Khashoggi was some sort of bagman funding US reporters. I've long suspected US talking heads of taking payouts (effectively bribes) to sell out US interests for the interests of foreign powers--in effect, lobbying the American people in their role as reporters on behalf of foreign governments. That's the only reason I can see them being upset about this; that is, one of their ATM machines got taken away.
Trump hasn't even been president for two years. He had nothing to do with creating the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. The current milieu is a result of Obama's administration siding with Iran, which has created an otherwise unthinkable alliance between Israel and Saudi Arabia against Iran.
anarchist23 wrote:Trumps supporters don't give a shit to what happened to a Saudi journalist in a Consulate in Turkey.
No doubt they don't know or care where Turkey, Saudia Arabia or Yemen is on the map.
When compared to the last 20 years of Middle East politics? This is what gets the media upset? If that's what it took to get the media's attention they should have started killing journalists en masse back in 2001. For God sake, we've seen the migration of millions of people into Europe and the political destabilization of the EU, with a compliant media calling entire national populations racist. This does not bother them. Yet, when a Saudi journalists with ties to the Muslim Brotherhood and friendly with shitbag reporters in DC gets chopped up they fall to pieces in tears and grief? Seriously? What world are these people living in? They weren't even marginally upset by Al Qaeda offshoots in Libya killing a US ambassador, instead blaming it on a Coptic Christian Egyptian emigre and throwing him in prison for an alleged parole violation.
jimjam wrote:Donald has been doing business with gangsters and crooks most of his life and has recently come out in favor of choking and body slamming reporters who ask unwanted questions.
We understand your disdain for Donald Trump, but the US has been allied with the Saudi state since its formation. The US has been exceptionally close to Saudi Arabia since King Abdulaziz bin Abdulrahman al-Saud and Franklin Roosevelt met aboard the USS Quincy on the Great Bitter Lake in Egypt in 1945. Oil is of strategic interest to the national security of the United States. The well being of shit-disturbing Muslim Brotherhood Saudi journalists is most definitely not a national security interest of the United States.
jimjam wrote:Perhaps news that his new BFF is a guy who cuts reporters into little pieces who ask unwanted questions is a bridge too far for some.
Calling illegal aliens who murder Americans "murderers" is a bridge too far for some. Given what Trump's detractors complain about, this one seems a little odd to me. It's not like Donald Trump ordered him to be killed. Do you want him to cry crocodile tears for the Muslim Brotherhood?
jimjam wrote:Perhaps this incident solidifies what we already knew: worshiping at the alter of money is what Donald and, by association, America stand for. I know that worshiping at the alter of money is ok by you and Donald but there are still some in this life who think there are some things/values that are more important.
The US prints the money it pays to Saudi Arabia. They return it to the US Treasury in exchange for weapons. Money isn't the primary issue. Oil and weapons are the material factors. Exporting weapons to client states was one of the methods to overcome the Triffin paradox following the closing of the Gold Window and the end of Bretton Woods. I have to figure that Jamal Khashoggi was some sort of bagman funding US reporters. I've long suspected US talking heads of taking payouts (effectively bribes) to sell out US interests for the interests of foreign powers--in effect, lobbying the American people in their role as reporters on behalf of foreign governments. That's the only reason I can see them being upset about this; that is, one of their ATM machines got taken away.
Istanbuller wrote:The United States and Trump administartion created this Saudi monster. You created this swamp. For this reason, it is up to you to clean this and reveal everything transparently.
Trump hasn't even been president for two years. He had nothing to do with creating the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. The current milieu is a result of Obama's administration siding with Iran, which has created an otherwise unthinkable alliance between Israel and Saudi Arabia against Iran.
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