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#14962420
Hamas knows the concequences to their actions

you know what? if Hamas would choose to shoot 20-30 rockets it would end right awy without any serious respond from Israel
now that they shoot 100 rockets they opened the gates of hell upon themselves
but Im sure they are doing it deliberately either an order from Iran or their own interest to make a better deal with Israel later

are you happy skinster?

alot of Palestinians will be killed in the coming days

I think you are happy because it serves your propaganda
#14962422
Zionist Nationalist wrote:Hamas knows the concequences to their actions


Err, this is the consequence of Israel actions, those where a terrorist death squad invaded Gaza last night and killed 6 Palestinians.

As I said, this is a pattern. Israeli terrorists have been gagging for another war on Gaza for months, particularly because of the great march of return protests. They know Hamas are going to respond with rockets if Israel breaks every fucking truce it signs up to with Hamas and kills more of its members. They want this. Israel wants attacks on Israel so it has excuses to attack Gaza. Stop acting like any of this is a surprise for the Israelis, they knew Hamas would respond and this follows a pattern of the exact same thing happening over and over again.
#14962424
Israel can allow themselves more than Hamas

since Hamas is a shitty terrorist organization they should sit tight even if Israel killed 6 of their pigs
but they dont care about their own civilians who are going to suffer from their actions

Israel is a country with army and a proper air force what did they expect that would happen to such a "response?"

and why does hamas target only civilian areas?

this is a not proper response Israel did not killed any civilians so far
#14962430
Again, Israel knew exactly what would happen when it made a ground invasion into Gaza to kill members of Hamas last night. This has happened a number of times before, Israel WANTS a response that it knows it will get because as I mentioned earlier, it's been gagging to bomb Gaza, particularly because of all the bad PR it was getting from the great march of return protests where it was regularly killing protesters for protesting against being forced to live in a concentration camp.

Zionist Nationalist wrote: Israel did not killed any civilians so far


I know zionists are delusional but this one liner is quoted for the :lol:
#14962432
No, I don't know what you mean. Your military planners wanted a response, this is on them. You don't get to break truces and kill your political rivals with impunity since your own government signed up to those truces with Hamas, knowing the outcome should the agreements be broken. This is not the first time this has happened, why pretend like you're outraged that people responded after you attack them? It is a weird stance, especially considering the people you attack are the same people you've placed inside a concentration camp. You should be lucky they're not attacking every day because of the conditions you've placed them in, and spare me the surprise at this response when your government knows exactly what it's doing.
#14962435
I like the fact that you support terrorists organization because that means that your and your BDS buddies goal is doomed to fail

You should be lucky they're not attacking every day because of the conditions you've placed them in.


and they are lucky that they are dealing with israel and not Russia Turkey or some other country that would just carpetbomb them

Hamas broke the truce so many times its not even funny
I dont know all the details behind the operation yesterday but its something that is being done regularly without anyone noticing only yesterday the IDF were ambushed by Hamas
#14962438
I don't know what my "BDS buddies" means but yes, further wars on Gaza have a tendency to build the boycott movement. This is good.

I dont know all the details behind the operation yesterday but its something that is being done regularly without anyone noticing only yesterday the IDF were ambushed by Hamas


I don't know what happened but blah blah blah.

What happened is Israelis went undercover invading Gaza, in plain clothing and killed a member of Hamas as well as 5/6 other Palestinians. This is similar to the events that preceded the wars on Gaza of 2008 and 2014. This isn't new. Israel has been gagging to attack Gaza generally and also because further agreements with Hamas were fast approaching. Israelis don't like agreements with the Palestinians because then it has no reasons for killing them like what is their general MO. Stop acting surprised, it doesn't suit you.

#14962443
Israelis don't like agreements with the Palestinians because then it has no reasons for killing them like what is their general MO


lol what a childish argument

This is not the way things work

you are seriously dumb

The incident yesterday was an accident Israel planned to kidnap a top Hamas member which they eventually had to kill because they were discovered
Hamas is an illegitimate organization Just like Al Qaeda ISIS or any other Islamic terrorist organization
They "response" is just a blatant assault on civilian areas trying to cause harm to innocent people
and now the people of Gaza will suffer too
#14962447
Gaza and the Psychopaths

Psychopathic

Adjective

1. Suffering from or constituting a chronic mental disorder with abnormal or violent behavior.

This is Oxford’s best shot at describing a condition I feel quite comfortable framing within its succinct parameters the State of Israel, the vast majority of its population – if the analysis of Max Blumenthal and Norman Finkelstein mean anything – the disease of Zionism, a highly virulent form of theocratic nationalism, as well as that country’s primary enabler – the greatest purveyor of terror on earth – the United States.

The instantly iconic photograph of Fadi Hassan Abu Salah, a double amputee who lost his legs during an Israeli carpet bombing of the Gaza called Operation Cast Lead in 2008 was murdered by a sniper Monday, May 14thin the context of an Israel now completely unfettered. The 70 year genocide of Palestinians has achieved a bas relief of murderous psychosis requiring neither justification nor subterfuge. From the Nakba or catastrophe of 1948 – the forced displacement of Palestinians numbering in the many hundreds of thousands from their homes and homeland marking the genesis of Israel’s blood soaked breech birth – to the present moment, there have been, to be sure, many, many worse slaughters by the Israeli Defense Force (IDF) and its various precursors, but the non-violent nature of this particular act of Palestinian resistance, The Right of Return, has placed Israel in the untenable absurdity of ascribing kites as lethal weapons of Hamas.

Not that Israel has the least concern for world opinion. Their psychopathic horrors are salvific in the writ of impunity granted by the United States, an American propaganda machine of stunning homogeneity and the abysmal, ahistoric ignorance of its citizenry – what Henry A. Giroux aptly refers to as a culture of manufactured illiteracy. Genocide plays well here as it mirrors the white, western European, Christian bedrock of America’s own DNA. Forget about the living wake of Reaganomics, America is still sheep dipped in the tragic misery of 15thcentury papal bulls.

How else to explain the spectacle of an indeed feckless heiress cum garmento Ivanka Trump and her ne’er-do-well moron of a husband Jared Kushner partying in Jerusalem on the site of our new embassy at the very moment 60-plus unarmed Palestinian men, women and children were being gassed and mowed down by bunkered IDF snipers less than 40 miles from the festivities. It would be bad fiction were it not true.

And where in aggregate, exactly, is the hue and cry of the progressive Jewish diaspora outside the confines of Pacifica Radio? Nowhere. While I’m of the mind that all organized religion is poison, to the extent there is anything redemptive in the tenets of Judaism I would think gaggles of observant American Jewry would be falling over themselves to point out in ear splitting decibels and in the most public of ways the malign injury beyond reckoning or repair perpetrated by Zionism on one of the earth’s greatest and venerable faiths. But no. Fucking crickets. Jewish Voice for Peace? Well, bless Rebecca Vilkomerson, the organization’s Executive Director. She gets high grades for effort but in the end her message strikes me as tepid, like an AA member telling a raging alcoholic they’ll be there when they’re ready. Where is the bottom for American Jews?

All I do hear is fearful malevolence and psychopathy from the oxygen starved brains of barking chows Nikki Haley at the U.N. and Fox News host turned State Department spokesperson Heather Nauert – a clone of her Obama era predecessors Jen Psaki and Marie Harf. John Kelly, John Bolton, Fred Fleitz, Mike Pompeo, Gina Haspel, US ambassador to Israel David Friedman . . . . where do we grow psychopaths of such timeless uniformity, I wonder. At the finest colleges to be sure. Only the best and the brightest have brought us to this moment.

When Guatemala and Paraguay are the only countries in a “coalition of the willing” to join the United States in opening embassies in Jerusalem, you know America is alone in the world and absolutely collapsing as a global empire. All we have left are tech companies that have made the inane ubiquitous, the closely related export of death and an increasingly shaky petro-dollar.

When all one hears is the ceaseless din of an utterly seamless merger of media on the left and the right bloviating preposterous Russophobic bullshit amidst a welter of false flag chemical attacks from Syria to Britain that are debunked as fast as they occur – but not by the voices on the left who should know better – then the writing, as they say, is on the wall.

In the meantime, every day, clearly identified Palestinian healthcare workers armed with cotton balls and saline are targeted like 21 year old paramedic Razan al-Najjar who had her heart blown out through her back 100 yards from an IDF rampart Friday, June 1st – followed by her cousin Ramzi al-Najjar on Monday. Canadian Palestinian Dr. Tarek Loubani, journalists like Ahmed Abu Hussein and Yaser Murtaja continue to be scoped and then murdered or crippled in the largest open air prison on earth with a reckless abandonment by psychotic Zionists at a level of carnage approaching what Hindu nationalists have been perpetrating on Muslims, dalits, tribals and women in general throughout India for decades. Yet another predominant genocidal theocracy with roots in Nazism and caste given to rape, hacking and immolation that make death by a clean bullet in the Gazan dirt seem like a blessing. But then, no one but Arundhati Roy is talking about that and it is, admittedly, bad form to compare atrocities. Most especially when the bullets aren’t clean.

IDF snipers are using what used to be referred to in 1980’s as “cop killers” or “dum-dum” bullets. These iterations on a grisly theme mushroom and fragment upon impact to maximize the internal carnage, exiting the body through a hole the size of a fist. They’re now referred to as “butterfly bullets”. Splendid marketing largely under-appreciated by the 123 dead and the amputees among 13,700 injured since March 30th.

The 70 year genocide of Palestinians by the State of Israel is psychopathic. It is not a conflict. It is genocide.

The 11 year Israeli blockade of Gaza by air, sea and land is psychopathic.

America’s support of the apartheid State of Israel through our media, billions in military hardware and United Nations obstruction is psychopathic.

Indifference is complicity and, yes, psychopathic.

As language becomes a weaponized virus unhinged from historical precedence and critical thought, precision becomes imperative to call things by their proper name. We are all of us in the cold embrace of psychopaths. The prisoners of Gaza and the West Bank know this. So should we.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/06/13 ... ychopaths/



Zionist Nationalist wrote:lol what a childish argument


It's not a childish argument, but the facts. Israel does not want to make any deals with the Palestinians that prevent it from continuing its apartheid and colonialism into further Palestinian territory. Israel doesn't want peace, it wants all of Palestine.

This is not the way things work

you are seriously dumb


If you think you can offend me then that's sweet and amusing.

The incident yesterday was an accident Israel planned to kidnap a top Hamas member which they eventually had to kill because they were discovered


If Hamas drove three kilometres into Israel and captured one of your shit country's military personnel, would you be okay with that? Israel started this by invading Gaza and killing Palestinians, FIRST. This is not something new Israel does, this has happened a number of times.

Hamas is an illegitimate organization Just like Al Qaeda ISIS or any other Islamic terrorist organization


You are welcome to consider Hamas illegitimate, I don't care about that, but it seems lost on you that your own government regular makes and breaks deals with this organization. Also, funny watching a zionist complain about Islamist orgs, seems you forgot your military was arming, training and treating Islamist orgs in Syria's occupied Golan Heights just very recently. ISIS are your buddies.


They "response" is just a blatant assault on civilian areas trying to cause harm to innocent people and now the people of Gaza will suffer too


The people in Gaza are always suffering, you forget they live in a concentration camp.

It's your government that started this by invading Gaza last night and killing Palestinians there. Your government loves to terrorize its own population.
#14962517
t's not a childish argument, but the facts. Israel does not want to make any deals with the Palestinians that prevent it from continuing its apartheid and colonialism into further Palestinian territory. Israel doesn't want peace, it wants all of Palestine.


You basically repeated yourself with a different narrative

this is not how things work

ou are welcome to consider Hamas illegitimate, I don't care about that, but it seems lost on you that your own government regular makes and breaks deals with this organization. Also, funny watching a zionist complain about Islamist orgs, seems you forgot your military was arming, training and treating Islamist orgs in Syria's occupied Golan Heights just very recently. ISIS are your buddies.


ISIS are not our buddies but al nusra probably are
I dont really care it was practical and revenge against Syria for its support for Hezbollah

If Hamas drove three kilometres into Israel and captured one of your shit country's military personnel, would you be okay with that? Israel started this by invading Gaza and killing Palestinians, FIRST. This is not something new Israel does, this has happened a number of times.


Hamas are holding 2 Israeli hostages in Gaza(who both mentally ill and entered Gaza by their own will but it doesent matter just show that hamas are a bunch of scums)
#14962547




Zionist Nationalist wrote:ISIS are not our buddies but al nusra probably are


Told you, Israel loves working with the Islamists whenever it suits their interests, just like the West does.

I dont really care it was practical and revenge against Syria for its support for Hezbollah


Nope, it was because zionists signed up to the war on Syria and likely because Israel thought it could occupy more Syrian territory than the Golan Heights its been occupying for decades.

Hamas are holding 2 Israeli hostages in Gaza(who both mentally ill and entered Gaza by their own will but it doesent matter just show that hamas are a bunch of scums)


That's nice they're just holding them, unlike the Israelis who shoot and kill, often when Palestinians are in their own territory. Hopefully they can use them in a prisoner exchange, since Israel kidnaps Palestinians as well as their children and holds them without trial, torturing them and such. Those people need to get out too.

It's weird you keep blaming Hamas for a thing the Israelis started, once more. Israelis invaded concentration camp Gaza last night and killed members of Hamas. They know what the response to that would be since it's happened a number of times before. Your government is terrorizing you, don't forget it has basically all the power in this scenario. You should join Boycott from Within. :)
#14964013
Those prisoner-refugees in concentration camp Gaza are protesting against the inhumane conditions Israel has put them in. Why would you oppose their protests, danholo? Do you think it's okay for Israel to place up a million children in unlivable conditions? Israel threatening to kill protesters in Gaza after killing over 200 Palestinians during these ongoing protests is...weird, but okay.





From today's protests:
#14964024
Do you think it's okay for Israel to place up a million children in unlivable conditions?


Yes

especially since its their own fault

so fuck them
Israel threatening to kill protesters in Gaza after killing over 200 Palestinians during these ongoing protests is...weird, but okay.


Israel is valuing its citizens more than enemy civilians

so if we need to kill protesters so be it whatever they are children or women it dosent matter anyone getting close to the fence is a dead man
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