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#14964382
Pants-of-dog wrote:You do not seem to have an argument.

Instead, you just have a whole bunch of judgements about me.

Let me know when you have an actual argument.

And you hypocritically ignore the fact that these guys are deliberately calling for taking away the rights of people.


They don’t have the power to take away rights. The government does and did. Saying I don’t have an argument when I laid it out for you is simply dishonest evasion of my point.
#14964384
One Degree wrote:They don’t have the power to take away rights. The government does and did.


Which rights did they take away?

Are you arguing that a person or business has the right to demand that another business has to serve them?

Saying I don’t have an argument when I laid it out for you is simply dishonest evasion of my point.


Then what exactly is your argument?

Please repeat it as clearly as possible.
#14964490
I had a look at this Your Ward News, so far it looks like it actually isn't racist (is anyone really surprised?) it's just a goofy satire rag in the spirit of 4chan/pol/ or Charlie Hebdo. It is aimed at stuck up political correctness inquisitors really.



Anyway if the Canadian Post is tax funded and won't carry his rag then James Sears should get a tax refund. :excited: fair is fair.
#14964494
SolarCross wrote:I had a look at this Your Ward News, so far it looks like it actually isn't racist (is anyone really surprised?) it's just a goofy satire rag in the spirit of 4chan/pol/ or Charlie Hebdo. It is aimed at stuck up political correctness inquisitors really.


I doubt it.

Edit: I was right. Sears is also a leader of a neo-Nazi group.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Naz ... _of_Canada

Anyway if the Canadian Post is tax funded and won't carry his rag then James Sears should get a tax refund. :excited: fair is fair.


This must be a joke.
#14964496
Pants-of-dog wrote:I doubt it.

Edit: I was right. Sears is also a leader of a neo-Nazi group.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Naz ... _of_Canada

confirmation bias and the usual boring smears SJWs throw at everyone.

Pants-of-dog wrote:This must be a joke.


Not at all. If you pay for a service but don't receive the service or it was defective in some way then you should get a refund. Fair is fair.
#14964603
In the late 20th and early 21st centuries, the term "left fascism" has been used to describe unusual hybrid political alliances. Historian Richard Wolin has used the term "left fascism" in arguing that some European intellectuals have been infatuated with post-modernist or anti-Enlightenment theories, opening up the opportunity for cult-like, irrational, anti-democratic positions that combine characteristics of the left with those of fascism.


"Regressive left" (also formulated as "regressive liberals" and "regressive leftists") is a neologism and political epithet, used as a pejorative to describe a section of left-wing politics who are accused of holding paradoxical, reactionary views by their tolerance of illiberal principles and ideologies, particularly identity politics (emphasis on group identities like race and gender, rather than on the individual), and opposition to free speech for the sake of multiculturalism and cultural relativism.
#14964605
True left is not liberal in their philosophy they do not ascribe themselves to notions of freedom of speech or protection of minorities and different thoughts and expression. For them oppression and censorship are justifiable means to an end. Hence political correctness was an official policy in Soviet Union as well which used it in silencing opposing and critical views not recognized by the Party.

Political Correctness is basically blasphemy laws but instead of silencing critics of religious dogma PC is used to silence critics of a political ideology.
#14964616
SolarCross wrote:confirmation bias and the usual boring smears SJWs throw at everyone.


How is it confirmation bias?

And this is not a smear anyone has thrown at him. Sears himself describes his group as having National Socialist ideology.

Not at all. If you pay for a service but don't receive the service or it was defective in some way then you should get a refund. Fair is fair.


Someone named taxizen should understand how taxes work.

Guess not.

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Sivad wrote:So that makes it government censorship.


No. Sears is still allowed to produce and distibute his Nazi propaganda.

He simply cannot force CP to distribute it for him.

Are you saying the government should force CP to distribute hate literature?

Sivad wrote:In the late 20th and early 21st centuries, the term "left fascism" has been used to describe unusual hybrid political alliances. Historian Richard Wolin has used the term "left fascism" in arguing that some European intellectuals have been infatuated with post-modernist or anti-Enlightenment theories, opening up the opportunity for cult-like, irrational, anti-democratic positions that combine characteristics of the left with those of fascism.


You really should provide links to the text you quote.

The text right here was copied from here:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_fascism

"Regressive left" (also formulated as "regressive liberals" and "regressive leftists") is a neologism and political epithet, used as a pejorative to describe a section of left-wing politics who are accused of holding paradoxical, reactionary views by their tolerance of illiberal principles and ideologies, particularly identity politics (emphasis on group identities like race and gender, rather than on the individual), and opposition to free speech for the sake of multiculturalism and cultural relativism.


And here:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regressive_left

Simply copying and pasting the works of other people (and not crediting them) is not an argument.

Some, instead, call it “plagiarism”.

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Albert wrote:True left is not liberal in their philosophy they do not ascribe themselves to notions of freedom of speech or protection of minorities and different thoughts and expression. For them oppression and censorship are justifiable means to an end. Hence political correctness was an official policy in Soviet Union as well which used it in silencing opposing and critical views not recognized by the Party.

Political Correctness is basically blasphemy laws but instead of silencing critics of religious dogma PC is used to silence critics of a political ideology.


Since Sears is not being censored, this is irrelevant.
#14964620
Pod’s argument, “if you are limiting the rights of those I don’t agree with then you are not really limiting their rights because the mail is a government entity and therefore the government is not controlling them” or some convoluted such nonsense. :)
#14964628
One Degree wrote:Pod’s argument, “if you are limiting the rights of those I don’t agree with then you are not really limiting their rights because the mail is a government entity and therefore the government is not controlling them” or some convoluted such nonsense. :)


You do not seem to understand what I am claiming.

You also do not seem to have an argument.
#14964636
Pants-of-dog wrote:You do not seem to understand what I am claiming.

You also do not seem to have an argument.

Sure I do. You are denying them rights everyone else has. This is a direct contradiction to your argument for other minorities. You insist this should not be done to them, but insist it is fine to do it to this group you don’t like.
You can run around in circles all you want trying to justify it, but you can’t. :)
#14964637
Pants-of-dog wrote:No. Sears is still allowed to produce and distibute his Nazi propaganda.

He simply cannot force CP to distribute it for him.

Are you saying the government should force CP to distribute hate literature?



Censorship includes the suppression of public communication. The CP is a state owned enterprise so that makes it state censorship.


You really should provide links to the text you quote.

The text right here was copied from here:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_fascism



And here:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regressive_left

Simply copying and pasting the works of other people (and not crediting them) is not an argument.

Some, instead, call it “plagiarism”.


:lol: ludicrous as always.
#14964641
One Degree wrote:Sure I do. You are denying them rights everyone else has.


Not really. Being able to send bulk unaddressed mail is not a right.

And CP has a right to refuse service.

This is a direct contradiction to your argument for other minorities.


Neo-Nazis are not a minority.

You insist this should not be done to them, but insist it is fine to do it to this group you don’t like.
You can run around in circles all you want trying to justify it, but you can’t. :)


So, in your head, neo-Nazis have had to deal with the same discrimination and bigotry as people of colour, indigenous people, LGBT folks, and other oppressed people?

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Sivad wrote:Censorship includes the suppression of public communication. The CP is a state owned enterprise so that makes it state censorship.


No, censorship does not include that. Especially when private distribution exists.

Now, do you think the government should force CO to distribute hate literature?

:lol: ludicrous as always.


I could tell you did not write that because of the lack of Youtube videos or knife smilies.
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