[quote="Potemkin"]The issue of who is sovereign - the monarch or parliament - was settled
in practice by the English Civil War(s) of the 17th century. Parliament is sovereign, and the monarch rubberstamps Parliament's decisions just to remove any doubt. The people are certainly not sovereign, and never have been. Referenda are therefore not legally binding on either the parliament or the monarch. How can they be?
WRONG -
Right back atcha!
Incorrect. The people are not sovereign. The people are sovereign in the USA, but that's because they had a popular revolution back in the 18th century. We didn't, so we're not.
Nonsense -
I explained quite simply that they, the people, ARE 'sovereign', a 'parliament' is merely a collection of our 'representatives', who, currently are empowered, by US, the people, to sit for a 'FIXED' term of 5 years, at the END of that term, parliament is 'DISSOLVED', IT NO LONGER EXIST - UNTIL a 'new' one is elected following a general election, without which, a 'new' parliament cannot form without elections, as could happen during wartime, in other words, 'continuity' is NOT recognised under the English system.
There is no sovereignty of parliament, otherwise there would be no requirement, or need, for 'democracy', ONLY the Monarchy have any 'Right of Succession'(continuity), on the other hand, OUR form of governance can & does change, when 'the worm turns'.
Likewise, a government CANNOT tax the incomes of people, 'IF' it fails to pass the annual 'Finance Act', which is why the government sought, got, opposition support for it, otherwise, frrom April 6 next year, there would be no tax revenues & we all know what that means, don't we?
The monarch does indeed hold their position in trust, but not in trust to the people but in trust to "those who come after", their own heirs and successors. In other words, they can't flog off the family silver to Johnny Foreigner. Lol.
Nonsense -
"those who come after", EXACTLY,
The issue of who is sovereign between parliament and the monarch was settled in practice in the 17th century. The issue of who is sovereign bet ween parliament and the people
has not yet been settled in practice. This is simply another way of saying that Britain has not yet had its popular revolution
Nonsense -
Not exactly, as explained above, in any case, 'Magna Carta' determined the 'balance-of-power' between parliament(The people's representatives)& the Monarchy as it was under King John.
If you think that 'parliament' is 'sovereign', why do you think that the following have the prefix, 'H.M'(Her\His Majesty's) attached to them, government ,Prisons, Courts, Navy, Army, Airforce, Police etc?
Parliament only makes Law, it is enacted by Royal Asent, you could say that the 'Law', which, in this country, is based on the biblical character of Abraham in practice, it was created by King Arthur, known as , the 'DOME', although the Vikings, Anglo Saxons & Normans also made further additions to the legal evolution of Law in this country.
Again, there is the 'Royal Pardon', by which any 'subject' may make a direct appeal for, for example, a prisoner sentenced to death in a court of law, that means that the 'Sovereign' is indeed 'SOVEREIGN'.