- 18 Jan 2019 15:32
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Suppose the fine was 10% of the nation's GDP and the ECB could just deduct it from the nation's account with the ECB. Then the fine is better understood. It would hurt a lot. OTOH, if it was 1K euros then, so what? Without a number we don't know how much it would hurt, right?
I don't like agreements like this that can't be backed out of. The people of the nations didn't give informed consent so their slavery is abuse. I have no idea how well the leadership of all parties in the nation's parliament understood what the treaty said. But I'm positive the people didn't understand
Just because a fine has never been applied doesn't mean that it wasn't threatened, perhaps behind closed doors. The EU loves to make threats out of the public eye. Italy and Portugal both recently caved-in without the Gov. changing so it wasn't a free choice, IMHO.
noemon wrote:
It seems that you are correct on the reverse qualified majority argument, but that was agreed by eurozone(not EU members who may opt-in if they so wish) countries on January 2013, so it is utterly moot, especially in relation to Brexit(as it does not apply to Britain at all) as well as the crises. Moreover, a fine has never been applied in the entire history of the EU despite of the Pact being broken by several countries for several decades, and that makes it comprehensively moot.
Tell us honestly Rugoz, do you believe that the EU (Commission) is to blame for the austerity programs?
Suppose the fine was 10% of the nation's GDP and the ECB could just deduct it from the nation's account with the ECB. Then the fine is better understood. It would hurt a lot. OTOH, if it was 1K euros then, so what? Without a number we don't know how much it would hurt, right?
I don't like agreements like this that can't be backed out of. The people of the nations didn't give informed consent so their slavery is abuse. I have no idea how well the leadership of all parties in the nation's parliament understood what the treaty said. But I'm positive the people didn't understand
Just because a fine has never been applied doesn't mean that it wasn't threatened, perhaps behind closed doors. The EU loves to make threats out of the public eye. Italy and Portugal both recently caved-in without the Gov. changing so it wasn't a free choice, IMHO.