- 13 Feb 2019 19:47
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When did I ever agree to being taxed in exchange for voting (which is a lie anyway); and when was I ever given the choice to join society? The answer is: NEVER.
Obviously.
I never agreed to be taxed, I was never asked and I wasn't given the choice. Working is not a form of assent except to my employer. Don't be ridiculous.
Yes it is, if I never made a voluntary agreement to be taxed, then forcing me to pay taxes under threat of force is a violation of the NAP.
Your claim is some idea of involuntary consent; which is a fiction.
If I fuck you while you are sleeping, you are not consenting just because you didn't object to the arrangement or didn't realized you were being fucked; your argument implies that consent would have existed in such a case.
Same thing with taxation in a social contract. Its not voluntary and involuntary consent is just as absurd as the example I gave.
"It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains. A vitiated state of morals... is incompatible with freedom."
- Patrick Henry
B0ycey wrote:You agree to it by being part of society.
When did I ever agree to being taxed in exchange for voting (which is a lie anyway); and when was I ever given the choice to join society? The answer is: NEVER.
B0ycey wrote:Again you could become an outlaw. They are your choices.
Obviously.
B0ycey wrote:This is true. But the government only get taxes from people who want to work and as such are prepared to be taxed by doing so. You on the otherhand can choose not to work and not get taxed. As such by working you agree to be taxed. So again not against NAP.
I never agreed to be taxed, I was never asked and I wasn't given the choice. Working is not a form of assent except to my employer. Don't be ridiculous.
B0ycey wrote:So again not against NAP.
Yes it is, if I never made a voluntary agreement to be taxed, then forcing me to pay taxes under threat of force is a violation of the NAP.
Your claim is some idea of involuntary consent; which is a fiction.
If I fuck you while you are sleeping, you are not consenting just because you didn't object to the arrangement or didn't realized you were being fucked; your argument implies that consent would have existed in such a case.
Same thing with taxation in a social contract. Its not voluntary and involuntary consent is just as absurd as the example I gave.
"It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains. A vitiated state of morals... is incompatible with freedom."
- Patrick Henry