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Scrpture says to ''not trust in princes'', but boy do we political junkies invest a lot of overwhelming love or hatred towards the rulers and politicians!

They're just people, good ones and bad ones, but people. And like us regular folks, I suspect that most are feeling as carried away by forces beyond their control as what the rest of us experience.
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Hindsite wrote:I think Ann Coulter is the idiot here.

She was a Mitt Romney acolyte. Basically, she will bark for whoever pays her the most. So I'm inclined to think her attack on Trump was something that was bought and paid for and she made a considerable sum for doing it.

Beren wrote:Sure she is, that's why she's a former enthusiastic Trumpite largely disillusioned by Trump now. :lol:

I'm sure that she was paid high six figures for that attack, probably from a collection of very wealthy leftists and #NeverTrump Republicans who sneeze that much in cocaine residue everytime they blow their nose. Intelligent people don't suddenly become stupid and change their tune. They get paid handsomely and then change their tune, leading people to believe they are stupid when in fact they are simply lining their pockets.

Drlee wrote:Rush Limbaugh is cuckold drug addict who never finished college. That makes him infinitely smarter than his fans. All Rush Limbaugh fans are unintelligent.

High income is highly correlated with high IQ. Some assert that average IQ increases by 8-10 points for every ten-fold increase in income. Rush Limbaugh has a net worth in excess of $400M dollars and an annual income in excess of $50M. Rush Limbaugh makes over 100 times as much as Drlee in any given year. What inferences or conclusions could you draw from these facts? I would argue that Rush Limbaugh has a higher IQ than Drlee.
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Drlee wrote:You are right and it is a huge advantage for him. His group is very reliable and easily malleable. The problem is that they are terrible coalition partners. The key to his reelection is certainly with his base which makes him a shoo-in for the nomination. The problem comes in trying to find winning votes among independents and traditional republicans. (And there still are a significant number of us though many have fled to the democrats.)

An example of one. My brother was also a life long republican. He did not vote for Hillary nor did he vote for Trump. We wrote in somebody and threw his vote away rather than vote for her. (Trump was out.) But he remained a loyal republican. A week ago my brother called me and said he had changed his registration to democrat. Why? Not Trump. He did it because the party lacked the moral center and courage to oppose Trump when he was just wrong. Or lying.

So that is what will happen in 2020. If the democrats can keep up the pressure Trump will be gone. Huge loss. Maybe lose the senate too.

What is dangerous for republicans is that if the democrats take all three, they will not hesitate to use the republican's own tactics against them. IF the democrats take even more state offices the republicans artificial power through gerrymandering will cease. I can seriously see a day when the republican party might simply become a third party with some organized independent party arising.


You overestimate your value to Trump or Trump like politics. The issue is that Trump rhetoric is eating in to classical democratic votes: Unions, Latinos, African Americans. While his rhetoric is loosing him the business and national security votes.

Ultimately this is a trade that he can make with ease. There is far more Unions and Latinos/Hispanic vote. He is struggling with African-American votes because there is an issue with prior racism regarding African Americans but their political ideology is more or less in line with what Trump says. Trump had a 8-1 disadvantage with Hispanics in pre-election polling BUT nobody asked if all of the 1st generation hispanics can vote. So the real numbers ended up around 2-1 to Trumps disadvantage.

Unions like the close the border politics for obvious reasons. Same thing goes for Hispanics(You will consider this absurd). But reality is that 2nd generation Hispanics and beyond are for shutting the border. Their only interest is family reunification. As long as 2nd happens then they go to Trump camp easily. So as long as Trump keeps this up and more 1st generation Hispanics who can't vote turn in to 2nd generation Hispanics that can vote then it is ultimately a big advantage for Trump like politics. (Voter disenfranchisement works)

If Trump manages to cut down on the anti-black racist rhetoric in the party then in 5 years African Americans will be a solid Trumpite vote. This is not a far fetched prediction actually. Religious African Americans do not vote for Republicans right now for obvious race baiting reasons but otherwise they are within his ideological sphere of sorts especially with trump ditching the business electorate.

This is also the reason why AOC is being targeted right now. She represents a sort of alternative narrative that democrats can present to the Hispanics instead of the Trumps close the border. Also this is the reason why Democrats are hammering on the "Child seperation" at the border. They want to protect their 2nd generation Hispanic/Latino electorate.
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Hindsite wrote:Being disillusioned by Trump is what makes her an idiot now, in my opinion. Trump is showing all of us that he is a tough guy willing to fight for what is right. Ann Coulter is an idiot for not understanding that.

What Ann Coulter understands is that she was an idiot when she fell for Trump. She's also an idiot because she can't realise that Trump simply can't or even unable to do what she wants him to.

blackjack21 wrote:I'm sure that she was paid high six figures for that attack

She seems honest to me about her frustrations with Trump and women can act like that when they're frustrated with a man. She's right though that Trump gave up on the wall when he signed the funding bill and that his declaration of a national emergency is a farce.
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Ann Coulter is in it for the money. She is a very smart person. A lawyer. Cum Laude graduate of Cornell. Editor of the Michigan Law Review. She knows exactly what she is doing.

She has done the calculus and determined that he is heading for a major political fall and is trying to stay on the right side of it.

Interestingly, if you look at the last field of candidates, only Jeb Bush is a "match" for her politics. How could she back the likes of Cruz? At the end of the day she, like Limbaugh, is an entertainer. She requires an audience and will follow the rules to get one. And the number one law for an entertainer to follow to have long term success....As much as you would like to innovate, grow and showcase your talent as a songwriter/author/actor always remember this. Play the songs the audience likes.
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I don't think he was ever really a radical. I think he is a con man who got in way over his head. She is wise to bail.

Coulter knows that no thinking person would ever buy one of her books. She is going to play to the market wherever that finds her. If it suited her purpose I could see her backing a democrat. The advance on her book on the subject would net seven figures I imagine.
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Drlee wrote:I don't think he was ever really a radical.

No, he wasn't, but he acted like one, and that was good for Coulter who could jump on the bandwagon, which became a prestigious presidential one, and sell some books to Trumpites. Now that Trump and his "radicalism" seem to have run out of steam it may be wise for her to jump off. But she still may be frustrated with Trump because she has to do this.
#14988992
Guys you are calling this way too early again.

His 2020 Campaign is going to use this against the Democrats and you all know it.

Ann Coulter won't keep this position for a year and three quarters.

This is the usual posturing before "coming back because the Democrats have shitty candidates" thing.
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colliric wrote:Guys you are calling this way too early again.

His 2020 Campaign is going to use this against the Democrats and you all know it.

Ann Coulter won't keep this position for a year and three quarters.

This is the usual posturing before "coming back because the Democrats have shitty candidates" thing.

Ann Coulter acts like an idiot sometimes, but she isn't about to become a Democrat because she is not stupid.
Praise the Lord.
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Hindsite wrote:Ann Coulter acts like an idiot sometimes, but she isn't about to become a Democrat because she is not stupid.
Praise the Lord.

She acts like an idiot but she's not stupid, that sums it up pretty well, and this may be something she has in common with Trump. How come they both feel like acting like an idiot while they're not stupid? :eek:
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Beren wrote:She acts like an idiot but she's not stupid, that sums it up pretty well, and this may be something she has in common with Trump. How come they both feel like acting like an idiot while they're not stupid? :eek:


Have you seen most Americans lately? People always and everywhere have been easy to lead by leaders who understand people's basic programing and motivations.
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Godstud wrote:To most of the uneducated, Canada is Socialist.

What has trump to do with your ignorant statement about Socialism? Deflect much? :lol:

I am retired(young), not unemployed. Are you capable of telling the two apart?

Yes, prostitution exists everywhere.

Yes, Thailand is a country.

Yes, Thailand is heaven. :D

What has this to do with Trump? Where do you live @Istanbuller? Is Ad hominems and implied insults all you have?

Childish. Just like Trump, your mentor, apparently.

Yes. Canada is a socialist country. You are unemployed and living on benefits. Why are you shy about it? Canadian government is encouraging you to do this. It is curently being run by a populist socialist party.
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