I am refuting the conservative notion that headscarves are inherently bad and anyone who wears them is inherently bad.
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Pants-of-dog wrote:That is contradicted by the fact that it conservatives who are trying to ban it in western countries.
That is contradicted by the fact that it conservatives who are trying to ban it in western countries.
Drlee wrote:Homosexuality was, less than a decade ago, a disqualification for entry into the military. Three decades ago it was a felony.
All of my life, until fairly recently, nobody would admit to being gay. Even famously gay people like Liberace did not admit it. My aunt, the colonel, lived with her lady friend not partner and then only after she retired from the service.
There has been a gay identity forever. In all but a few places it was kept very quiet, between gay people.
Verv wrote:The way as I have understood it occurring in Korea and Iran is that often times married people partake in it but view it as a dark side of themselves, a perversion, and few people fancy making this a primary orientation or identity, due to generally understanding it as a deviation.
It's like a heterosexual man fantasizing about a world where his wife accepts his mistress's existence and endorses their continued escapades, or it's like a man who exclsuively plays women or visits harlots expecting the rest of society to also recognize this as an acceptable lifestyle.
... And the fact that people refuse to accept such a lifestyle is "bigoted," but the highly ideological & hateful attitudes that the left has to those who disagree with their politics (and all the baiting they engage in) is portrayed as progress and tolerance. \
People didn't accept evil and would shame people who embraced it -- since when is that "oppression," and when is that anything but the proper reaction one receives from their chosen way of life?
Stormsmith wrote:As to the idea we should ban them, then no. Consider our favourite Pakistani-Canadian, Malala Yousafzai, who wears the scarf. No one would tell her she was symbolizing being oppressed. No one.
Why does Malala justify the headscarf?
And what about her feat makes it possibel that she is not in an oppressed state..?
Sivad wrote:I'd love to have some wingnut candidly explain their issue with the Muslims. Wingnuts don't give a fuck about savage repression and exploitation and most of them are religious fanatics so we know it's not that. So what gives, wingnuts, what exactly is your retarded beef with these people?
Verv wrote:I am sure there were Nazi soldiers and Communist fighter pilots who took bullets and did amazing things overcoming their difficulties. I bet there are even some epic little Nazi girls and female suicide bombers who stared down the barrels of guns and chose the hard path -- the path less traveled.
Of course, no one would say that the exploits and bravery of these people justify their beliefs or ideologies.
Why does Malala justify the headscarf?
SpecialOlympian wrote:They're visibly different and serve as scapegoats.
Other than that, conservative Christians and conservative Muslims both believe women are chattel.
Sivad wrote:The liberals are the ones running this shitshow so they're the bunch of malicious idiots I focus on, I don't really get why anyone would waste time and energy on islam?
Verv wrote:I think there is much to be admired in their history, culture, and in their ability to maintain a lot of the principles they were founded on.
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