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Godstud wrote:I think you need to speak to some of the communists on this forum. It's not the violent ideology that you think it is, and I think that almost none of them call for violence.
Hong Wu wrote:I don't people call others a part of a German political party that formed in the 1930's and has been gone for almost 100 years because they're trying to be constructive.
Politics_Observer wrote:What are you trying to say? I am not following you. Please clarify what you are trying to say to where it's easier to understand. Thanks!
Hong Wu wrote:Sorry edited my post.
Politics_Observer wrote:Yet, I think there might be a few things we can learn from the commies. For example, what is fascism and how to fight it.
Politics_Observer wrote:Do our communist friends on the forum have suggestions on how to combat fascism through constructive non-violent means?
Politics_Observer wrote:In addition, communists seem to believe in the abolition of private property because it is their belief that private property eventually leads to slavery.
blackjack21 wrote:Seriously? All you have to do is look at Charlottesville, VA to see that violent confrontation is exactly what the left wants.You mean where the right-winger nazi killed someone with his car.
Godstud wrote: You mean where the right-winger nazi killed someone with his car.
So melodramatic, as usual, Blackjack21.
blackjack21 wrote:The mayor of Charlottesville and the governor of Virginia got the Antifa types motivated to confront the "Unite the Right" folks. The first attempt resulted in 23 Antifa types getting arrested and none of the "Unite the Right" people getting arrested. On the next outing, the mayor of Charlottesville ordered the police to stand down so that Antifa could attack the Unite the Right people without police intervention. The outcome was predictable. It was just a failure on a propaganda level, because people saw through the attempt to smear only the Unite the Right people and not the Antifa types initiating violence as suborned by the government. That a mentally ill guy ran over a fat chick walking in the middle of the street isn't something that is going to get people to draw broad conclusions.
Politics_Observer wrote:That rally looked like trouble to begin with so the smart thing to do is not attend those kinds of crazy rallies in the first place.
Politics_Observer wrote:But from what I saw on the news, it was a bunch of Nazis that were being violent and used a car to commit a murder by running down demonstrators.
Politics_Observer wrote:Those were Nazis in Charlottesville and they were definitely the "bad guys."
Politics_Observer wrote:They argue that the capitalist class is well armed and willing to use violence and also cite how unarmed strikers in the past were gunned down by hired goons.
Politics_Observer wrote:But the Pinkertons murdered those striking factory workers in cold blood back in the day and those guys were the factory owner's hired goons. And their is no doubt that it was the workers and not the factory owners that build that factory and made it successful but at a high cost to them (them being the factory workers).
It was Antifa that initiated the violence. The car incident was a separate matter. James Fields was a mentally ill schizophrenic and drove his car into a crowd of people, apparently killing Heather Heyer in the process. You could certainly argue that Fields was a Nazi, but mentally ill people generally aren't fully within their faculties yet are allowed to roam free these days until they harm somebody.
Many of them are just under- or un-employed people that are more or less the victims of trade policies that favor outsourcing and the cheapest possible labor over domestic tranquility.
Politics_Observer wrote:Unions have been crushed in the United States and many parts of the world and there is no real substitute for working people having a union so that eventually their kids can move up the ladder. And when working people start getting heavily exploited and treated like replaceable spare parts and having to work 3 or 4 jobs to barely make ends meet, all the sudden crazy narcissistic people like Trump who says he has a solution and that "only he can solve the problems" suddenly are able to move in and easily manipulate these people who feel angry and hopeless and just downtrodden.
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