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Beren wrote:She doesn't deserve being mourned more than she was mourning her premiership today. Her arrogance was especially remarkable, that's how I'll remember her at least.
So move on to the next chapter of the Brexit saga: The Rise of the Clown.
He could be a perfect last PM of the UK.
JohnRawls wrote:The funny thing, people might start to remember Brown and Blair with nostalgia and admiration instead of whining about every mistake that they have done. (Let us be honest compared to Cameron, May, probably Bojo and probably Corbyn after they were not that bad. Economy was growing, situation was stable and the country was relatively content)
Little side note. I do not really think that it matters who will become the leader. I am a firm believer that the system creates or at the least influences its leader.( If there was no Putin for 3rd term then the system would put another Putin in charge) Ideology is the 2nd part of it. BoJos ideology is relatively the same compared to May so i think he will be the same actually. Is he more competent than May? I heavily doubt it.
Nonsense wrote:When Labour were kicked out by the electorate, Liam BYRNE revealed the extent to which people had been conned, by declaring, "Dear Chief Secretary, I'm afraid there is no money. Kind regards - and good luck!"
Nonsense wrote: "Dear Chief Secretary, I'm afraid there is no money. Kind regards - and good luck!"
ingliz wrote:A joke.
There is a long tradition, dating back as far as the 1930s, of ministers leaving humorous messages to their successors.
“Good luck, old cock…. Sorry to leave it in such a mess.”
Conservative Chancellor of the Exchequer Reginald Maudling to his Labour replacement James Callaghan, 1964.
B0ycey wrote:Funny you write this. I fully expect a similar letter from the Chief Secretary of the treasury after BoJo has pulled us out of the EU, crashed the economy and loses the forecoming general election.
You can blame Labour for spending all the money if you like. But if you knew anything about the 2008 crash you would know that it was the bankers that fucked up the economy not the politicians for once. All the politicians did was bail them out because we rely heavily on the finance sector for our GDP.
Nonsense wrote:Well, that's the funny bit, the difference bewteen the Tories & Labour.
The Tories trumpet their ability to manage the financial affairs of the nation & they do what they do according to their ideology.
Unfortunately, a Party that is supposedly 'pro-business'(one of Gordon BROWN'S mantra's to the CBI & IOD)the reality is in stark contrast.
When they took power in 2010, they hit the ground running in pursuit of 'welfare reform' , euphemism for 'austerity', a thinly veiled velvet glove on an iron fist of fiscal rectitude & savage cuts in public spending.
Now, this is the funny bit, despite the false reputation, when they took office, the national debt was just £500 BILLION, but, by 2022 the national debt will exceed £2 TRILLION, four times what it was when Labour were in power last,so, it appears that their reputation precedes their abilities.
As for the deficit being cut, that was supposed to have been eliminated 5 years ago, but that policy, paid for by spending cuts AKA austerity, was paid for by those who have had their incomes reduced through deliberate government policy & the proceeds have gone to the rich & better off by way of tax cuts.
Thats why eliminating the deficit is taking much longer(because it deflates demand in the economy), but, it's also worth noting,the Pound has slumped in value with inflation exceeding growth for every year they have been in power, productivity has slumped(it would do with mass migration added to the workforce without a corresponding increase in productivity), hence why living standards & poverty has vastly increased.
No, their economic competence is zero.
B0ycey wrote:Most of the UK debt is to itself. And it was caused simply to bail out the banks. So the incompetence of the global economic mess we have today is down to the bankers - and perhaps government for not regulating them - but mainly the bankers. All trademarks for the fall of Capitalism that will inevitably happen sooner or later, but that is another thread altogether. Although austerity, whether for or against it, is just an inconvenient truth. Every nation needs to balance the books and only exceed spending to invest or prevent economic collapse. Or more simply put, unless their is fiscal need or benefit to do so, don't spend more than you receive as it unsustainable. But being that you are a Brexiteer don't moan too much about austerity. Expect more from the government to pay for BoJos fuck up when he pulls us out if the EU without a deal. First thing to go, the triple lock.
As for the pound depreciation, that is down to Brexit. So again don't bitch about that either.
Nonsense wrote:I don't 'bitch' about anything BOycey, I am just stating facts & cause of them.
The Guardian wrote:Watson says polls suggest Labour has been losing up to four times more voters to parties giving full backing to another referendum, than to Nigel Farage’s Brexit party.
...but you're not stating facts are you. I am. There is no denying that most of the UK debt was due to the financial crisis as that is when the QE program started and the money went on bailing out the banks. Blaming Brown (or Obama as most people do) for saving the banks by using QE is stupid. They either saved them or destroyed the financial market altogether. And being the UK rely heavily on the financial market for GDP, any chancellor would have done likewise to keep capitalism living for that little bit longer.
As for the depreciation of Sterling, the value you see today happened the same day we voted leave. A huge drop in one single day that has never been recovered. Compare that to when RBS was bailed out and you can see why what you wrote is nonsense. Even under QE, investors still had confidence in sterling to buy it up as they saw the UK as a haven for growth even under such economic hardship when compared to the rest of the world. Ten years on and that hope has gone as Brexit is seen as a dead weight for the UK in their biggest export market and today investors look else where as Brexit is economic suicide.
As I have told you many times before. You want Brexit. Have it. But it has an economic price that you will pay for in inflation and austerity.
Nonsense wrote:Again, BROWN should have let the markets sink, he should never have bailed them out with taxpayers money.
BROWN should have used that taxpayers money as capital to finance a state bank subjected to strict lending rules set by the state-NOT- used to bail out private banks.
Hong Wu wrote:According to Google, Brexit+Conservatives+UKIP got 44% of the vote. Is it true that every other party wants to remain in the EU?
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