- 11 Jul 2019 07:54
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So it is with chickens and chimpanzees--with species that pre-date humans; that is, a very old story indeed.
So, you're saying Hitler didn't have any real power over the people who were killed under his command? I find this sentiment sweet, but impossibly naïve.
We all have a "back of your mind," a prefrontal cortex, an amygdala, a ventral tegmental area, a hippocampus, etc. That's not who a person is, it's what a person is. Your dog loves you until you are dead and he is impossibly hungry. Then, he eats you. Deputies: 57-Year-Old Texas Man Was ‘Entirely Consumed By His Own Dogs’. Hiding from nature won't make it go away.
Everyone sees 'the other' when dealing with others. Psychologically, we have to recognize otherness as part of self-preservation and socialization among other factors.
No. I don't. In rejecting Marx, I also have to reject the poetic extremes of Jefferson. Uniform application of the law is different from presuming everyone has the same strengths, weaknesses, and other attributes. As I said, I wouldn't bother trying to get a pack full of bichons to pull me on a sled through the Alaskan snow. Alaskan or Siberian huskies? Sure. That does't mean I think that bichons or poodles should be summarily executed. It just means I recognize their abilities and disabilities.
That's not surprising. As I said, anthropology is an imperialist's discipline.
You are an anthropologist, now in Mexico. What is your opinion of human sacrifice in Meso-American culture? Did the Aztecs sacrifice humans for love, or were they filled with hate? Does it matter to you?
I don't think reflection is a bad thing, but I don't think deluding yourself is something to aspire to either. When I worked in mass storage, I mused that I don't work for the NSA and I don't know that I work for the NSA. Mass data storage is used by CERN looking for the Higgs-Boson, etc. It could provide a deeper understanding of the physical world, but someone might use that knowledge to make a better atomic bomb, or perhaps a sub-atomic bomb. Some people used the software I worked on to upload pictures of their cat. Some to stream pornography. Others to violate movie copyrights with bit torrent. I have absolutely no doubt that some uses involve governments spying on their citizens. As I am now in telecommunications, I'm quite sure that part of what I do helps them to do just that. Yet, I also generally trash the establishments in ways that many of you really don't seem to understand. However, I'm not sure it's important that you understand.
Clearly, I'm spending some of that time on you. I don't populate all of my arguments with assertions that everyone who disagrees with me is either stupid or a Nazi, for example.
You may not, but those pushing agendas like Eugenic abortion are doing just that. The welfare state is expensive. The welfare state is incentivized to get rid of what Hitler and his ilk referred to as 'useless eaters.'
It's serious on other dimensions. Saving someone's life isn't a purely selfish act.
Back on topic, it appears ObamaCare could be coming up for an encore, and maybe even a final exit during the 2020 election cycle:
Appeals Court Looks Askance at Obamacare
Tainari88 wrote:Humanity's love of power plays and their need to retain power and use violence and terror to keep power is a very old story.
So it is with chickens and chimpanzees--with species that pre-date humans; that is, a very old story indeed.
Tainari88 wrote:In the end, one doesn't have real power over other people and other societies by using any kind of oppression and fear to control others whom you want to retain and manipulate for some less than human purpose...in the end? Fear doesn't replace love or caring deeply to get a change to happen when it is necessary.
So, you're saying Hitler didn't have any real power over the people who were killed under his command? I find this sentiment sweet, but impossibly naïve.
Tainari88 wrote:but in the back of your mind,
We all have a "back of your mind," a prefrontal cortex, an amygdala, a ventral tegmental area, a hippocampus, etc. That's not who a person is, it's what a person is. Your dog loves you until you are dead and he is impossibly hungry. Then, he eats you. Deputies: 57-Year-Old Texas Man Was ‘Entirely Consumed By His Own Dogs’. Hiding from nature won't make it go away.
Tainari88 wrote:you are always seeing them as 'the other' first and not as your absolute equal.
Everyone sees 'the other' when dealing with others. Psychologically, we have to recognize otherness as part of self-preservation and socialization among other factors.
Tainari88 wrote:You don't believe in true egalitarianism.
No. I don't. In rejecting Marx, I also have to reject the poetic extremes of Jefferson. Uniform application of the law is different from presuming everyone has the same strengths, weaknesses, and other attributes. As I said, I wouldn't bother trying to get a pack full of bichons to pull me on a sled through the Alaskan snow. Alaskan or Siberian huskies? Sure. That does't mean I think that bichons or poodles should be summarily executed. It just means I recognize their abilities and disabilities.
Tainari88 wrote:Did you know in Mexico there were no Mexican anthropologists til after WWII?
That's not surprising. As I said, anthropology is an imperialist's discipline.
Tainari88 wrote:I won't ever value what you value Blackjack.
You are an anthropologist, now in Mexico. What is your opinion of human sacrifice in Meso-American culture? Did the Aztecs sacrifice humans for love, or were they filled with hate? Does it matter to you?
Tainari88 wrote:The important thing for me near the end of human life is the question of if you felt you did something with your life that went beyond your own limited life. How did you serve people?
I don't think reflection is a bad thing, but I don't think deluding yourself is something to aspire to either. When I worked in mass storage, I mused that I don't work for the NSA and I don't know that I work for the NSA. Mass data storage is used by CERN looking for the Higgs-Boson, etc. It could provide a deeper understanding of the physical world, but someone might use that knowledge to make a better atomic bomb, or perhaps a sub-atomic bomb. Some people used the software I worked on to upload pictures of their cat. Some to stream pornography. Others to violate movie copyrights with bit torrent. I have absolutely no doubt that some uses involve governments spying on their citizens. As I am now in telecommunications, I'm quite sure that part of what I do helps them to do just that. Yet, I also generally trash the establishments in ways that many of you really don't seem to understand. However, I'm not sure it's important that you understand.
Tainari88 wrote:Are you capable of caring about others who are not as bright as you are or as educated as you are? Who do you spend your time on?
Clearly, I'm spending some of that time on you. I don't populate all of my arguments with assertions that everyone who disagrees with me is either stupid or a Nazi, for example.
Tainari88 wrote:I don't want to spend my time culling the herd and worrying about those with the lack of 'IQ' that is high being a burden on human society. How I need to control for the cream of the crop.
You may not, but those pushing agendas like Eugenic abortion are doing just that. The welfare state is expensive. The welfare state is incentivized to get rid of what Hitler and his ilk referred to as 'useless eaters.'
Tainari88 wrote:You never answered me about the girlfriend? is it going to get serious or have you moved on to new pastures?
It's serious on other dimensions. Saving someone's life isn't a purely selfish act.
Back on topic, it appears ObamaCare could be coming up for an encore, and maybe even a final exit during the 2020 election cycle:
Appeals Court Looks Askance at Obamacare
"We have put together the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics."
-- Joe Biden
-- Joe Biden