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skinster wrote:Stop pretending you and they are victims, you're supremacists and you can fuck off with that bullshit since it's 2019 now and the world has changed, so get with its programme.


Get with the program? So in other words, accept my way or you're a supremacist? And you call other people supremacists?
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Code Rood wrote:Get with the program? So in other words, accept my way or you're a supremacist? And you call other people supremacists?


That's what I was going to point out yesterday! skinster is constant complaining about other people being supremacists, but the people she's complaining about generally aren't going around and forcefully trying keep people from talking in public or simply getting together and walking down the street.

There isn't anything more supremacist than someone who endorses the idea of only one group of people's views are correct and everyone else has to be forcefully shut down, loose their jobs, the right to collect donations or sell products on the internet, lose their families, get beaten up, thrown in jail or worse.
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Code Rood wrote:I wouldn't even call it Russian. For one, the Bolshevik revolution got funding from rich people in London and New York. The Russians were victims of the red terror. They were starved and worked to death by the millions.

You could use the same argument to say that Nazism wasn’t German and Fascism wasn’t Italian. All three outgrew their nations of origin, but that doesn’t change the nations where they first took control.
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Sivad wrote:Well thank God there's an antifa to combat the tiny minority of fringe dwelling idiots that nobody gives a fuck about to begin with. If it wasn't for antifa, racist retards with banners would occasionally turnout in small numbers and slightly inconvenience the indifferent masses unopposed.


Actually people do give a fuck about them. The residents in Charlottesville, including multiple churches based in and around the city cared, that's why they protested the white supremacists that came to town with their dumb helmets and weird shields.

You downplay neonazis as problem-free morons but all that does is reveal something about you; you're privileged enough to not consider neonazis a threat, probably because you're white. Still, that doesn't mean they don't scare others. They do. They kill people, as we saw in Charlottesville and repeatedly in these mass shootings. And would kill all of those they disliked the colour of, given a chance/power. THAT is their ideology and the nucleus of the movement should be smashed with utmost brutality on its first day if we are to go with what Hitler said could've destroyed his.

maz wrote:Right, thanks for admitting some people on the right are being targeted for harassment and literally being oppressed while claiming that they the right are either currently oppressing, or in a secret conspiracy to oppress others if they are allowed to get together and walk down the street or to meet in private rooms to share ideas.


Lol at Maz shedding tears for white supremacists who get pushback from anti-racists in multi-racial cities.

It's the exact same rationalization that Israel uses to attack their neighbors; claiming that their enemies are in a giant conspiracy to wipe them off the map, or drive them into the sea or some bullshit therefore they have the rights to just bomb and kill whomever they want.


Funny, here you can see that the supremacists (Israelis) play victim while committing violence, just like the neonazis you're pretending are victims...

You just admitted that "supremacists" ie people who don't believe in mass illegal immigration and teaching children about anal sex and how to wear dresses, are being targeted for harassment and are literally being victimized by antifa.


Immigration is going to happen anyway. If you go around destroying countries, people will flee to safety, as would you if you were in the same situation. What you should be crying against is how your government is destroying these countries that makes these immigrants in the first place, not the results that come with their actions. It's like there is this utter blindspot here for that, in the U.S. and Europe, from people like you who think people without power are the problem. Direct your anger at those at the top who have power and create the conditions that upset you.

Not sure who's offending you re: anal sex and dresses but if these are actual, real-life problems for you, perhaps speak to a therapist about why this stuff offends you could help.

Code Rood wrote:Get with the program? So in other words, accept my way or you're a supremacist? And you call other people supremacists?


Yes, get with the programme that white supremacy is over in multicultural cities now. Or will be fought against. You're not paying attention, clearly...
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Immigration is happening in the US and Europe because people working for shady NGO's are going to these countries, gathering people and literally trafficking them thousands of miles into other countries.

And antifa is just one group that are going around disrupting people who are simply speaking out in their objection to unwanted people flooding into their neighborhoods and communities.

skinster wrote:https://twitter.com/IGD_News/status/1164033985040662528?s=20


So in a less hysterical headline, the police arrested a random drug dealer, not a "potential mass murderer" whatever that is :roll:
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skinster wrote:Yes, get with the programme that white supremacy is over in multicultural cities now. Or will be fought against. You're not paying attention, clearly...


Diversity (most of it done without asking the people) is pretty much everywhere in the West now, not just the big cities. Do you even know what supremacism means? Most of these people you oppose and call nazis and white supremacists don't even want to rule over you, assuming you're non-white. They want people to leave. Or even break up a country if necessary. They're separatists. Or they're lame conservatives (what we saw in Portland) who think antifa are the real nazis.
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Aww, they just want the people to leave. That's all! :lol:

maz wrote:Immigration is happening in the US and Europe because people working for shady NGO's are going to these countries, gathering people and literally trafficking them thousands of miles into other countries.


Citation?

And antifa is just one group that are going around disrupting people who are simply speaking out in their objection to unwanted people flooding into their neighborhoods and communities.


Then why did they think it was OK to flood multi-racial Charlottesville and disrupt the communities there?

So in a less hysterical headline, the police arrested a random drug dealer, not a "potential mass murderer" whatever that is :roll:


:lol: :lol: :lol:
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skinster wrote:Aww, they just want the people to leave. That's all! :lol:


Yes, or split up the country. Or they're lame conservatives (what we saw in Portland) who think antifa aren't communists, but rather the real nazis. There aren't actual white supremacists out there. And if there are, it's miniscule and not worth bothering about.
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SpecialOlympian wrote:PoFo's right wing hates antifa because they are pro-fascism. It's as simple as that.

Get rid of nazis marching in the streets of cities like Portland and suddenly antifa goes away. But PoFo's reactionaries like to see angry, racist white men terrorizing communities, so anyone opposing them is bad.



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Once again, white genocide is the answer.


thanks for proving my point. 49 MILLION VERSES 7 MILLION.
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skinster wrote:Citation?


Are you saying that hundreds and sometimes thousands of poor third world peasants are just spontaneously gathering together at certain points along a pre-determined route and head through Mexico on their way to the US all by themselves?

One of the organizers of migrant caravans through Mexico has disappeared, his group says

A binational organization that has been helping coordinate caravans of Central American migrants through Mexico says one of its members has "disappeared" after being questioned by Mexican federal police and immigration authorities.

The group Pueblo Sin Fronteras said Carlos David Cueva Ramirez, a Honduran citizen, hasn't been seen since Monday.

The group is pleading for his safe return.

When he disappeared, Cueva Ramirez was in the southern Mexican state of Chiapas, helping accompany Central American migrants after they had crossed over into Mexico from Guatemala, the group said in a written statement.

The group said a second member was deported to Honduras on Thursday a week after he was arrested and detained, and a third was arrested and detained before being released last week.

"We denounce the arbitrary detentions and deportations carried out by" local, state, and federal police and Mexican immigration authorities, the group said.

Dual citizen arrested in October
Irineo Mujica, a longtime activist, was arrested by Mexican federal police on Oct. 18 while participating in a march on the Mexican side of the Suchiate River in the town of Ciudad Hidalgo. (Photo: Nick Oza, for USA TODAY)

In October, Irineo Mujica, a Phoenix resident with dual Mexican and U.S. citizenship, was arrested by Mexican federal police in Cuidad Hidalgo. At the time, he was participating in a rally to welcome a large caravan of several thousand Central American migrants that had gathered across the Suchiate River on the Guatemala side of the border. Two days later the caravan crashed through a gate into Mexico on the international bridge that spans the river from Guatemala.


skinster wrote:Then why did they think it was OK to flood multi-racial Charlottesville and disrupt the communities there?


Probably because the court in Charlettesville recognized that the UTR had the legal rights to assemble in a park, as guaranteed by the US bill of rights, and the courts approved the city to grant them a permit.

right of the people peaceably to assemble and to petition the government for a redress of grievances


It's not the UTR's fault that antifa and other LGBT agitators showed up and created the violent and chaotic conditions which led to a car incident which killed your patron saint, and who officially died from a heart attack according to her mother.
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SpecialOlympian wrote:White genocide is apparently pretty popular. People are talking. Someday we will make it a political reality.


By the people running Google but we all know how evil biased they are.

BTW Hilarious a Wall Street guy wanting white genocide (the lie of the decade), imagine if you had to post under your real name that would be a career move. LOL :lol:
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The left's answer to emboldened white supremacists? A (white supremacist) militia of their own.

If they look scary, that's kind of the point — to scare agitators away from peaceful protesters.
Editor’s note: After this story published, Kevin Smith contacted us to say that the local group has not completed Redneck Revolt’s vetting process, and thus is not officially a chapter yet. When vetting is complete, the group plans to represent members from Denver to Pueblo, and either call their chapter Front Range Redneck Revolt or Front Range John Brown Gun Club.


It's also a good time to point out how far left terrorist supporters like skinster post articles whining about gun control and how guns in the US are a big problem, like to ignore that antifa types are arming up with the same "weapons of war" that they like to complain about.

They are also arming up in localized cells with the specific intention of being menacing and potential carrying out acts of violence, vigilantism and other illegal acts. They are also getting favorable media treatment by the same media outlets who would normally be whining about gun control.
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Hong Wu wrote:Well, let me explain my reasoning when I say that they want to be declared a terrorist organization.

First, as I've opined before, punching someone in the face (e.g., punch a "nazi" in the face) doesn't actually change anyone's opinion. It doesn't kill or remove a political opponent. In our current environment where these people are a minority, it's completely counter-productive towards their stated end goals.


That makes literally no sense at all.

Antifa is not a terrorist organisation because you think punches to the face are an ineffective way of communicating goals.

Second, we can conclude from the persistent irrationality of all this that these people's stated goals and their actual goals are, in most cases, not the same thing.


This also makes no logical sense.

The more likely explanation is that you are confused and you just think someone is lying because you cannot figure stuff out.

Third, their actual goal is to virtue signal, look tough, come across as revolutionaries, all without getting into too much trouble.


This is unverifiable speculation.

Fourth, if Trump declares them a terrorist organization, most of them will have accomplished their goal and they can move onto something else, such as LARPing being part of an oppressed underground movement.


If you think people want to be labelled as terrorists by a government that routinely arrests and tortures terrorists without trial, you have no realistic conception of people’s goals.

All Trump has to do is wait for the right time, probably after someone else gets injured in the lead-up to the election, to declare them a terrorist organization. At that point, the "outrage exchange" occurs and everyone gets what they really want.


Do you mean that you guys get what you want: an excuse to round up and arrest anyone who counterprotests when neo-Nazis march?
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Tim Pool calls out antifa and their deranged progressive supporters in the media for the dirtbags that they have proven themselves to be.

Apparently the event got shut down because of the threats from people who are clearly dangerous terrorists.

He says that theese dirtbags are threatening to come to his town to threaten him and the safety of his event by claiming that they have a right to defend themselves in his neighborhood.

It's too bad that New Jersey has such strict gun control laws because he should clearly be carrying to protect himself from these thugs who are threatening him.

Pants-of-dog wrote:If there is no unbiased source, perhaps the story is not true.


Addressing your demand for an unbiased (authoritative source).

South Jersey theater cancels event about race relations amid threats from anti-fascist protesters

Following a social media firestorm and threatened protests, the Broadway Theatre in Pitman has canceled a controversial event about race relations that its organizers said was aimed at “combating racism, violence, and authoritarianism.”

The one-day conference, sponsored by Minds.com, a cryptocurrency social networking site, had been scheduled for Aug. 31 at the nearly century-old theater, where Bob Hope and Bing Crosby once played. The lineup included 20 speakers, most of them white, and organizers said it was designed “to bring together a diverse group of people with differing viewpoints.” An after-party was also planned at another venue. The event organizers said they hope to hold the forum at another location in the region.



“We had a discussion with the event organizer over the weekend,” Darrell Blood, the theater’s business manager, said Tuesday. “It was mutually decided that the Broadway Theatre would no longer hold the event.”

Blood declined further comment on why the event was scrapped. Mayor Russ Johnson also confirmed that the gathering would not be held at the theater, located in the borough’s revitalized downtown district.

Johnson said he was working with the police department amid threats of violence and protests, including one to burn down the theater. “That’s the stuff I won’t tolerate,” he said.

Bill Ottman, a co-founder of Minds, based in Wilton, Conn., said planners were considering their legal options to force the theater to live up to its agreement to host the gathering. A party at the Human Village Brewing Co. in Pitman will go on as planned on Aug. 31, he said.

Ottman said he is also searching for an alternate venue nearby for the conference. He said the invited speakers represent a broad spectrum of political views.

“I totally respect and understand if people disagree with some of the people’s ideas,” Ottman said. “No one is endorsing anyone’s views.”
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