[blackjack21]

Just a reminder: James Fields, the nazi murderer, drove 8 hours for the privilege of running down Heather Heyer with his car in Charlottesville.

Why does this bother you? One white person is dead and another is in prison for life. Isn't that a victory for you?

[BigSteve]

Yes, it is possible that antifa killed someone.

It is also possible that they never killed anyone and that they are being maligned for some reason.

Why is one more plausible than the other?

I would love for you to point out where I said one was.

I'll wait...

And antifa members are also justified, I assume.

Are they? What justifies these pussies sucker-punching people?

[Verv]

So it is a really negative thing for people to travel to a place some hours away to protest?

Dang.



They even do it in Australia:

[skinster]

^

These neonazis come to protests with hammers, but they're only trying to talk!

[Pants-of-dog]

I would love for you to point out where I said one was.

I'll wait...

So you are admitting that you have no argument and so i will assume your post was just a bad attempt at a false equivalency.

Are they? What justifies these pussies sucker-punching people?

Your reading comprehension failed.

Antifa members are equally justified in hitting people and even killing them, just as your imaginary victim of an antifa attacker is supposedly justified.

And considering how much kore violent white supremacists are, this is actually more plausible.

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As far as I can tell, this is a racism conference. All the people speaking are either openly racist or support those who do.

[BigSteve]

So you are admitting that you have no argument and so i will assume your post was just a bad attempt at a false equivalency.

Not even close.

You asked why one scenario was plausible while the other was not, and I never suggested such a thing. I was merely pointing out your inability to make a point without fabricating bullshit...

Your reading comprehension failed.

Antifa members are equally justified in hitting people and even killing them, just as your imaginary victim of an antifa attacker is supposedly justified.

They're not justified in sucker punching someone. No intelligent individual would defend action such as this, yet the victim ended up in the ER because a band of antifa pussies attacked him: https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1145418610615017472?s=20

Considering the fact that he was the victim of an unprovoked attack, he would've been justified in defending himself in whatever manner he deemed necessary.

What's most disgusting is that the guy wasn't even a counter-protester. He's a journalist. They just don't like him because he documents the actions of these scumbags, so they attack him...

And considering how much kore violent white supremacists are, this is actually more plausible.

Feel free to point out the white supremacists who are kore [sic] violent and attacking people in that video.

Members of antifa are scum and need to be treated as the piles of shit they are...

[Pants-of-dog]

Not even close.

You asked why one scenario was plausible while the other was not, and I never suggested such a thing. I was merely pointing out your inability to make a point without fabricating bullshit...

Do you have an argument?

They're not justified in sucker punching someone.

No one said they were.

They are justified in defending themselves.

No intelligent individual would defend action such as this, yet the victim ended up in the ER because a band of antifa pussies attacked him: https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1145418610615017472?s=20

Considering how often people make up hoaxes about antifa, this will need some corroborating evidence.

Considering the fact that he was the victim of an unprovoked attack, he would've been justified in defending himself in whatever manner he deemed necessary.

What's most disgusting is that the guy wasn't even a counter-protester. He's a journalist. They just don't like him because he documents the actions of these scumbags, so they attack him...

Please provide evidence for this claim.

Feel free to point out the white supremacists who are kore [sic] violent and attacking people in that video.

No. I will wait for you to provide evidence.

[BigSteve]

Do you have an argument?

For what?

They are justified in defending themselves.

Feel free to point out the antifa scum who were defending themselves in that video...

Considering how often people make up hoaxes about antifa, this will need some corroborating evidence.

The video is enough for any intelligent individual. I understand that someone who admires them as much as you do would be inclined to dismiss what you see...

Please provide evidence for this claim.

Again, the video is all the evidence any intelligent person needs.

Why do you require more?

No. I will wait for you to provide evidence.

No, you won't do it because you can't. You lack the integrity and character to admit that, though, so you'll just sit there and whine about "evidence"...

[Pants-of-dog]

For what?

So no argument.

Feel free to point out the antifa scum who were defending themselves in that video...

Maybe all of them were.

Maybe that person happens to have a long history with antifa, has doxxed some of them, goes around egging them on, et cetera.

....more ad hominems...

So, all you have is one short video wth the sound turned off.

Do you know who Andy Ngo is?

[BigSteve]

So no argument.

So, you're not even able to articulate what it is you want an argument for.

Aside from serving as an amusement why, then, are you even here?

Maybe all of them were.

They were attacking a guy with a camera. There's nothing which shows him attacking anyone...

Maybe that person happens to have a long history with antifa, has doxxed some of them, goes around egging them on, et cetera.

The guy's a far right-wing type, sure. But that in no way justifies attacking him, and anyone who thinks it does is a fucking idiot. He documents what antifa does, and they don't like it. Why? Because it exposes them as the little bitches they truly are, and they'd rather be perceived as badasses. They're not badasses. They're cowardly pussies...

So, all you have is one short video wth the sound turned off.

Um, no, the video I watched and linked to had sound...

Do you know who Andy Ngo is?

I absolutely do. And nothing he does warrants an attack such as is seen in the video. Nothing. I'd like to see Ngo get his concealed carry permit (Oregon, after all, is a "shall issue" state) so he can defend himself the next time antifa pussies attack him...

[maz]

All of the pro-antifa people in this thread have already admitted that antifa actively looks to violently confront anyone who wants to publicly express a dissenting opinion. That's not self defense.

So, you're not even able to articulate what it is you want an argument for.

Aside from serving as an amusement why, then, are you even here?

Good question. Why are Canadians and other posters who aren't from America so interested in America's domestic affairs? Why such strong opinions for things that don't even affect them?

[BigSteve]

Good question. Why are Canadians and other posters who aren't from America so interested in America's domestic affairs? Why such strong opinions for things that don't even affect them?

Because they know that, as much as they complain about us, they wish they could live here...

[Pants-of-dog]

So, you're not even able to articulate what it is you want an argument for.

Aside from serving as an amusement why, then, are you even here?

Amusing.

They were attacking a guy with a camera. There's nothing which shows him attacking anyone...

Again, it is plausible that the “victim” actually started the confrontation, and that part has been edited out.

The guy's a far right-wing type, sure. But that in no way justifies attacking him, and anyone who thinks it does is a fucking idiot. He documents what antifa does, and they don't like it. Why? Because it exposes them as the little bitches they truly are, and they'd rather be perceived as badasses. They're not badasses. They're cowardly pussies...



Um, no, the video I watched and linked to had sound...



I absolutely do. And nothing he does warrants an attack such as is seen in the video. Nothing. I'd like to see Ngo get his concealed carry permit (Oregon, after all, is a "shall issue" state) so he can defend himself the next time antifa pussies attack him...

If you know who he is, then you know that he deliberately creates these confrontations for his own purposes.

And if antifa merely pushes someone around who deliberately seeks violent conflict, then it is unreasonable to assume that antifa is actually thinking about lethal violence at this racism conference.

[BigSteve]

If you know who he is, then you know that he deliberately creates these confrontations for his own purposes.

Do you have video of him physically attacking someone? If not, there's no reason to believe it exists.

And, without it, nothing we see him doing warrants antifa pussies attacking him...

And if antifa merely pushes someone around who deliberately seeks violent conflict, then it is unreasonable to assume that antifa is actually thinking about lethal violence at this racism conference.

These are not the type of injuries someone gets when they're "pushed around":



Seeing as Oregon is a "shall issue" state when it comes to CWP, maybe the antifa pussies should think about lethal violence. They should think about it being used against them.

I would support that 100%..

[Pants-of-dog]

Do you have video of him physically attacking someone? If not, there's no reason to believe it exists.

And, without it, nothing we see him doing warrants antifa pussies attacking him...

Irrelevant.

Considering his history of instigating these confrontations for his own purposes, it is reasonable to assume this happened again.

These are not the type of injuries someone gets when they're "pushed around":

Again, if a few cuts and bruises is the worst that antifa has done, it is unrealistic to assume they actually hurt anyone at this racism conference.

Seeing as Oregon is a "shall issue" state when it comes to CWP, maybe the antifa pussies should think about lethal violence. They should think about it being used against them.

I would support that 100%..

No one cares about your opinion.

[BigSteve]

Irrelevant.

Considering his history of instigating these confrontations for his own purposes, it is reasonable to assume this happened again.

So we agree that you have no evidence that he's ever physically attacked someone...

Again, if a few cuts and bruises is the worst that antifa has done, it is unrealistic to assume they actually hurt anyone at this racism conference.

You're missing the point. If these pieces of human shit attack someone with a CWP, the victim would be well within his rights to use his firearm to defend himself. All he has to do is believe that he's being threatened with great bodily harm or death.

Your defense of these scumbags says a lot about you. It tells us that you support cowardly acts. It tells us that you're a follower and not a leader. It tells us that, left to your own devices against a meaningful adversary without back-up, you'd probably wet yourself.

The overall point here is that, regardless of what Ngo did, if he didn't physically assault someone (and you and I agree that there's no evidence to suggest that), any attack on him is unwarranted, unprovoked and cowardly...

No one cares about your opinion.

You must, you keep responding. What does that say about you? You admit you don't care about my opinion, yet it's clear that you lack any discernible level of self control to not respond.

You will continue to respond to my posts, because you do care what my opinion is...

[Pants-of-dog]

So we agree that you have no evidence that he's ever physically attacked someone...

Irrelevant.

Considering his history of instigating these confrontations for his own purposes, it is reasonable to assume this happened again.

You're missing the point. If these pieces of human shit attack someone with a CWP, the victim would be well within his rights to use his firearm to defend himself. All he has to do is believe that he's being threatened with great bodily harm or death.

You're missing the point. If these pieces of human excrement (i.e. white supremacists) attack an antifa member with a CWP, the antifa member would be well within his rights to use his firearm to defend himself. All he has to do is believe that he's being threatened with great bodily harm or death.

The overall point here is that, regardless of what Ngo did, if he didn't physically assault someone (and you and I agree that there's no evidence to suggest that), any attack on him is unwarranted, unprovoked and cowardly...

So, if someone came up to you and started calling you a racist bedwetter, and deliberately insulted you, you would simply meekly take it, no matter how long they treated you like garbage, like a “coward“?

Or would you take the “cowardly” way out and punch them?

[foxdemon]

No, all of them are either openly racist, openly support racist people and policies like Pool does, or have no position whatsoever.

So just to be clear, there are no people who are actually trying to stop racism who have been invited to this conference. The “diversity” extends only to views that are conservative.

You keep repeating the claim that the people at the conference are racist. Do you have any evidence for this?

Why should we listen to people who are trying to take away the rights of non-whites?

How do we benefit?

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What rights do non-whites have that will be taken away?

So we agree that antifa has never killed anyone, so it is illogical to assume they will do so now.

They are communists. Communism is responsible for 100 million deaths in the 20th century. So it would be logical to assume Antifa is a dangerous organisation.

[BigSteve]

Irrelevant.

Considering his history of instigating these confrontations for his own purposes, it is reasonable to assume this happened again.

So, again, we agree that you have no evidence to suggest that's what occurred in this instance.

Got it.

But, just for kicks, what do you think he might've done to instigate a physical attack against him?

You're missing the point. If these pieces of human excrement (i.e. white supremacists) attack an antifa member with a CWP, the antifa member would be well within his rights to use his firearm to defend himself. All he has to do is believe that he's being threatened with great bodily harm or death.

He would be.

But the attacks I see are coming from antifa pussies...

So, if someone came up to you and started calling you a racist bedwetter, and deliberately insulted you, you would simply meekly take it, no matter how long they treated you like garbage, like a “coward“?

Or would you take the “cowardly” way out and punch them?

If all they were doing was yelling at me? No, I wouldn't hit them. I wouldn't do that because I would be then in the wrong.

If they started shoving me as they did it, however, the shoving would be the start of a physical altercation and, yes, I'd certainly defend myself, with violence if need be, and I would be perfectly justified in doing so.

And I told you that you would continue to respond. Just like a good little lib: Do what you're told...

[foxdemon]

Also any person of any race can be a dipshit reactionary. Which doesn't matter, Tim Pool's blood is tainted with foul whiteness which makes him 100% white.

Goodness me! That is a very racist comment. So anyone with the slightest trace of European ancestors is intrinsically bad in your view?


I have’nt seen compelling evidence that anyone at this conference is linked to far right ethnic supremacy. Could this be because the people at the conference are liberal whereas the neo-nazis and eco fascists are socialists, just like Antifa?