[Beren]

Not exactly. He wants to negotiate a new deal and let us vote on that.

He wants to remain in a customs union with the EU, which is soft Brexit, and let you vote on it, I wonder what more you'd expect from him. Unlike refusing the referendum result and asking for an immediate second referendum ad nauseam, it's a viable option.

To do that he has to win an election and then manage to negotiate a new deal.

Exactly.

[snapdragon]

He wants to remain in a customs union with the EU, which is soft Brexit, and let you vote on it, I wonder what more you'd expect from him. Unlike refusing the referendum result and asking for an immediate second referendum ad nauseam, it's a viable option.

He wants to negotiate a new customs deal, which will allow him to protect British businesses from cheap foreign imports. How likely is that?

At least, he did. I don't know what he wants to do now.

The EU have stated May's deal is the only deal we can have, but Corbyn voted against that, so where does that leave him?

Exactly.

Which is not going to happen.

Certainly not in time to avert disaster.

[Beren]

The EU have stated May's deal is the only deal we can have

It's the only deal you can have if you want to have a Tory Brexit, which is a hard Brexit, or else you leave with no deal.

Which is not going to happen.

Certainly not in time to avert disaster.

Sure, if it's not going to happen soon, you leave with no deal most likely.

[Atlantis]

Our dear and beloved GB has finally left us after years of internal strive and agony. May she rest in peace.

[snapdragon]

It's the only deal you can have if you want to have a Tory Brexit, which is a hard Brexit, or else you leave with no deal.

We'll be leaving with no deal.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... is-johnson

Sure, if it's not going to happen soon, you leave with no deal most likely.

Looks like it. Owen Jones is a strong Corbyn supporter, but he may as well have been speaking of Corbyn's fantasies.

[skinster]

[ingliz]

so where does that leave him?

Changing the definite article ("the") in the WA to an indefinite article ("a") in the PD.

[skinster]

[Atlantis]

The question is, will they let Bojo join the fun ride or roast him for breakfast?

[Nonsense]

There are similarities between Bannon and Cummings. At least they understand that Boris Johnson and Donald Trump can be successful archytypes of sorts if steered in the right direction with a specific outlook. I am not saying this as a bad or good thing. The whole point of being an analyst/strategist/adviser to politicians is to help them be successful, no?

The 'point' being, 'steered in the right direction', on that score, one might ask, "where did it all go wrong, for CORBYN"?

He has it all wrong on his party's, as well as his own political 'judgement' on the 2016 referendum & it's change of 'direction' since then.

[JohnRawls]

The 'point' being, 'steered in the right direction', on that score, one might ask, "where did it all go wrong, for CORBYN"?

He has it all wrong on his party's, as well as his own political 'judgement' on the 2016 referendum & it's change of 'direction' since then.

How is Corbyn relevant to Cummings or Bannon? Also Corbyns policy has been steady since the referendum and even before it. He doesn't care nor does he support leave or remain. He just goes with the flow basically.

[Atlantis]

Come all and sit down at your side of the Brexit table:

[Atlantis]

"where did it all go wrong, for CORBYN"?

He came too close to No. 10. The powers-that-be can't have that.

[Istanbuller]

Great move. Suspension of parliament will stop Britain's democratic crisis. Boris Johnson has balls to stop Brexit deal madness.

It is most likely that The EU will bow to Boris Johnson's demands.

[skinster]

[Atlantis]

Great move. Suspension of parliament will stop Britain's democratic crisis. Boris Johnson has balls to stop Brexit deal madness.

Turks love coup d'états. Maybe it's the Turkish blood in Boris.

It is most likely that The EU will bow to Boris Johnson's demands.

LoL

[Atlantis]

Motherfucker.

Takes a Dutch to be so blunt.

[foxdemon]

Surely something had to be done to force Brexit past the Remainers in parliament. It’s been three years already. And they want to keep stalling indefinitely. The UK needs a return to certainty and to move on from this issue. If a hard Brexit is the only way forward, then that is what needs to happen.

[Potemkin]

Surely something had to be done to force Brexit past the Remainers in parliament. It’s been three years already. And they want to keep stalling indefinitely. The UK needs a return to certainty and to move on from this issue. If a hard Brexit is the only way forward, then that is what needs to happen.

Agreed - this is the only way to resolve the deadlock. Parliament doesn't want another referendum, doesn't want a no-deal Brexit, and doesn't want the Brexit deal which Theresa May agreed with the EU (which is the only deal the EU will ever offer). But one of those three things must happen. The legal default, of course, is a no-deal Brexit. So that's what's going to happen, whether Parliament wants it or not. After all, something has to happen.

[JohnRawls]

Agreed - this is the only way to resolve the deadlock. Parliament doesn't want another referendum, doesn't want a no-deal Brexit, and doesn't want the Brexit deal which Theresa May agreed with the EU (which is the only deal the EU will ever offer). But one of those three things must happen. The legal default, of course, is a no-deal Brexit. So that's what's going to happen, whether Parliament wants it or not. After all, something has to happen.

A communist advocating for the collapse of constitutional parliamentary order along with possible territorial losses, hmmm, I think I have seen this somewhere.
In all honesty, the fetish of left radicals that capital and globalization is at fault is as wrong as radical right notion of immigration and globalization to be at fault.
Both sides understand that something is wrong but produce wrong analysis on a fix. It is better than not acknowledging the problem but it won't fix anything.

We need to return to our post WW2 till 80s model of capitalism. Restrict and limit capital from freely moving. Restrain the independent central banks. Shut down tax havens. Increase taxes. Force capital to invest in to yourself and grow gdp by growing wages and productivity. Inflation will pick up at a certain point but that is a 20-30 year story. We need to squeez the capital to inflate the middle class.