SolarCross wrote:The illib undems just had guy vernosestud over saying europe needs to become an empire. I am not sure how well that will play with the illibs base when they finally put two and two together and realise that their children are in increasing danger of one day being conscripted by the 4th Reich for Operation Barbarossa 2.0.
Come election day, minds will suddenly adjust to the reality at that time.
The electorate will,at that point, polarise their thoughts as to how they vote.
All of the fractional politics will have reached the end of the process of rancour over leaving europe, the 'blame' game will commence in the approach to the election.
The electorate come to the fore,all the predictions by pollsters, pundits & self-styled 'experts' on the BBC will be proven wrong as usual.
There will be no new concensus, the divisions have always been there,always will be until the system changes, there's little incentive to be radical in the existing Westminster set up before that fundamental change happens.
People will, in the meantime, decide who was to blame, who is best to meet the challenges ahead with our new-found freedom & how that will be managed domestically.
I have to say that, spending wise, there's little policy difference, the Tories have vastly increased the national debt & Labour would vastly expand the deficit, along with higher taxes of every kind, including 'stealth' taxes, those in their little 'schemes' conjured up to benefit a few & make everyone else pay more.
Further austerity is the price the poor have to pay for these policies, which never affect the rich or better-off, the notion that, 'we are all in it together' is, quite frankly, a cynical lie.
On balance, although people have no negative thoughts on europeans, the E.U is a different matter, with the ambit towards creating a federal superstate within the grasp of the europhile elite, the 'dream' will eventually turn sour.
It promised much,but has delivered little over the time it has existed & most of that which has been accomplished most probably would have anyway without the E.U.
Only the national co-operation amongst members in a few areas have achieved modest success, the reality is, the gruel has been spread very thinly indeed among the poor & concentrated in too few hands.
I think any fool can make the apparition of a successful economy,by running huge deficits or by creating a crippling national debt, doing so without those negatives in a fair way, is impossible,so the poor must pay whilst the rest enjoy the life that their political appointees cook up for them.