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Beren wrote:I don't know how she's going to do it, but she seems definitely better than Hillary Clinton, although not being Hillary Clinton could be enough perhaps. HRC was like a real anti-candidate.

Hillary has more baggage than Heathrow. So I think just about anyone is going to have lower negatives than she did.

Beren wrote:It's apparently counterproductive in this case as it seems to benefit Warren so much that Biden's candidacy appears to be seriously jeopardised.

Well, that's consistent with the left's aim to try to marshal women to vote as a minority bloc in spite of being a numerical majority and never having voted as a bloc--not even for Hillary Clinton.

SpecialOlympian wrote:Douglas Murray seems like your typical conservative Fox News pundit trash, but British.

He has been a defender of neoconservatism, so I'm a little suspect.

SpecialOlympian wrote:So I can see why a boomer like Blackjack, who spends most of his day with a death grip on his Lay-Z-Boy watching cable news, would like him.

Hallucinating again are we? Although, I did go to watch a few baby boomers play what I suspect will be their last tour on Wednesday night. Here's a video of police officers in your neck of the woods shooting someone with a gun if it makes you feel better.



FoxNews never has anything like that. Fucking commies.

MadMonk wrote:Elizabeth Warren is not of the working class (upper middle-class academic background, who once was one of Harvard's highest-paid professors), she is the champion of the middle-class professionals.

And defenders of her naked fraud to that end, even at the expense of actual minorities.

MadMonk wrote:Her ticket is to keep hammering on Wall Street, the greed of the financial sectors and major US corporations. All the way to the White house.

She'll have jimjam's vote for sure, as long as the corruption investigations do not hit any Democrats.

jimjam wrote:To everyone who thinks Trump is acting just fine, here is a challenge.

:lol: I'm sure everyone would just laugh. I work at home. Anyway, did you watch Trump's campaign speech in Ilhan Omar's district in Minneapolis?

Rich wrote:This is Cultural Marxism we're talking about and in our post 9/11 world the supreme good in the Cultural Marxist hierarchy is Islam. Islam trumps race, trumps everything else. Its not about hating on male rapists, let alone hating on men. No Cultural Marxists love rapists if they are Muslim or Black. And note how our oh so feminist Cultural Marrxists or also very wary about criticising Orthodox Jews, despite the horrendous bigotry and misogyny of so many of them.

Murray focuses on transgender, which he characterizes as a battering ram. That seems to have gone mainstream more so than trans-racialists like Rachel Dolezal. However, the idea is that by adopting transgender identity you can knock down all traditional roles. It is in fact an attack on feminism, as is an embrace of Islam--the recent anonymous trolling of "Islam is right about women" teases to that effect.

late wrote:1) You see, back in the real world, there are these things called facts.

So you want Trump to win?

late wrote:2) I expect he will he lose, his win was a fluke. Politicians go into a cold sweat when their popularity goes below 50%, Trump has never even gotten close.

His win was an inside straight more than a fluke. He deliberately campaigned in places like Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. He just held a huge rally in Ilhan Omar's congressional district in Minneapolis last night to a packed house. Democrats expect Republicans to refrain from campaigning in safe Democrat districts. Trump is a different kind of political animal.

late wrote:3) Holy Crap... there is too much wrong in that paragraph to get into all of it. Dems, for the most part, aren't Lefty's, that's crazy talk. But you do have a point. The Clintons created the corporate wing of the Dem party. They occupy the spot on the political spectrum that the East Coast Republican establishment was in, back in the 50s and 60s (guys like Ike).

The Democrats are a monolith of a single political ideology. They attract the far left into their party as well. A significant problem they are facing is that the leftist faction grew substantially stronger during the Obama years and all the grass roots enthusiasm is with them. Nancy Pelosi is the titular head of the party, but AOC+3 is where all the media excitement occurs. They are the leftist version of Donald Trump. You may think I'm wrong about this, but I've been spot on about Trump since 2015 and you guys have been consistently wrong.

late wrote:4) Republicans (mostly the Koch brothers) built the world's best propaganda mills in the 80s. They dragged the country far to the Right, and the Dems got dragged to the middle, most Center-Right and Centrist.

We're a long way from Bill Clinton's presidency. A lot of what ails the country started during his reign. NAFTA, GATT and MFN Status for China started under Clinton, as well as the telecommunications bill that opened up the internet to commerce--leading to high paying jobs for tech workers, and outsourcing of lower paying jobs like call centers to India. Clinton's banking reform is a significant part of why the 2008 financial crisis materialized. Clinton also pushed Welfare Reform and a crime bill, both of which hit black people hardest. So Bill Clinton wasn't anti-white. That started later, and became very clear by around 2006 when the McCain almost got amnesty through, but failed and killed his own presidential aspirations in the process. Obama was anti-white working class, anti blue collar. His laments against the police were largely about the Clinton crime bill. Obama also basically undid Clinton's welfare reform.

late wrote:5) Trump is a con artist that tells people what they want to hear. Blue collars type want jobs most of all, and Trump has made that situation worse. Most of the rest is fodder for the slow and the crazy. If you look closely, Trump is the immigration problem, for example. A lot of Latinos worked here, and occasionally went home to see their family. Once the crazy started, they brought their families into the USA, because they saw the border shutting down. He made things worse in a number of ways.

You may feel that way, but his supporters do not. That is one of the facts that you keep ignoring.

late wrote:6) The state implored? This is just the usual intersection of money and politics. Gays created this political movement, and transgenders were able to ride on their coattails. This became a lucrative business for Docs. Every treatment is supposed to be studied for safety and efficacy, mostly that hasn't happened for sex changes.

Because of previous discrimination, nobody wants to rock the boat, and risk having the entire movement jump on them.

Yes, and we all know politicians will sell out for a buck. What makes Trump unique is that he didn't need anybody's money to start and he couldn't be shut down by the major donors. So he could say whatever he wanted. If anybody else stepped out of line, their money was cut off.

late wrote:7) Speaking of crazy, you and science are non-intersecting sets.

You'll notice that all global warming prognostications have been wrong too. They could be right if they just dumped their ludicrous feedback loops and dealt with the known laws of physics, but they aim to overstate warming to try and scare people. Warmer periods have been noted as a boon to life, not as a boon to natural disasters.

late wrote:9) It's way more complicated than that, but I've typed enough.

It may be more complicated than that, but it's a common refrain throughout the West.

As Trump pointed out in his Minneapolis speech last night, the crowd at his speech in New Mexico was 40% Hispanic. Trump also has some ardent black supporters, which scares the daylights out of the establishment.
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blackjack21 wrote:

1) So you want Trump to win?


2) His win was an inside straight more than a fluke.

3) The Democrats are a monolith of a single political ideology. They attract the far left into their party as well.


4) We're a long way from Bill Clinton's presidency.

5) You may feel that way, but his supporters do not. That is one of the facts that you keep ignoring.


6) Yes, and we all know politicians will sell out for a buck. What makes Trump unique is that he didn't need anybody's money to start and he couldn't be shut down by the major donors. So he could say whatever he wanted. If anybody else stepped out of line, their money was cut off.


7) You'll notice that all global warming prognostications have been wrong too.


8) It may be more complicated than that, but it's a common refrain throughout the West.

As Trump pointed out in his Minneapolis speech last night, the crowd at his speech in New Mexico was 40% Hispanic. Trump also has some ardent black supporters, which scares the daylights out of the establishment.



1) Nonresponsive reply, counselor.

2) A presidential election is always, in the end, a referendum on the status quo. Do you want things to stay the same, or do you want change. The same people that voted for change last time will do it again. They are not happy.

3) The Dems break down into the Corporate Wing, the Progressives, the Black bloc, Latinos, Gays, Womens issues. They are roughly as monolithic as 10 cats fighting in a small box. You say things that really don't belong on this planet. Political influence usually happens in groups, none of those are far Left.

4) Do try to focus, kiddo. I said Clinton started the Corporate Wing of the Dem party, they are still there, and there is a polite (for the moment) civil war as the Progressives fight for a seat at the table. You also missed my point about how the political center of the country was shoved way to the Right.

5) I am hardly ignoring it. But my reply is still so what. The Dems are hotter than a 5 cent cigar, and swing voters are going to do what they usually do, swing.

6) What I was talking about had nothing to do with Trump. Focus...

7) The research found warming in the 1970s. They were right then, they still are. Look at scientists that haven't sold out to the Koch brothers.

8) In that case you need to start looking for sources that know what they are talking about.

"You do speak a lot of tosh."

(That is a very obscure bit of 100+ year old Brit slang, and a quote from a superb book, Piece of Cake.)
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Finfinder wrote:LOl I got a better one it's real easy.

If you want to understand how scared shitless the Democrats really are just ask them to place a wager $$$ on Warren winning the presidency. :D

Kinda like asking Repubs the same question about Donald in 2015 :lol: .

Sit back and enjoy the show FF …… it's gonna be a good one.
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