Presvias wrote:Yeah Colbert is a smug liberal know it all douche but at least he's amusing.
Yeah, but late night television isn't what it used to be. Johnny Carson could pull in 6M+ viewers a night. He stayed away from politics for the larger audiences. None of the late night comics do that anymore, and they are lucky to break 2M viewers now.
Finfinder wrote:The interesting thing about this is Pelosi won't take a vote I wonder why LOL
She has over 20 people in districts Trump won, whose constituents don't want impeachment. Hence, she doesn't have the votes.
jimjam wrote:I guess legally/technically she does not have to but...………. realistically she is protecting some house members who may be hurt if they go on record.
Legally, she doesn't have to. However, impeachment is a political process and doing everything in secret looks bad. Preventing both sides from having subpoena power appears unfair. She can continue to do this, but I think it hurts her case.
SpecialOlympian wrote:The GOP doesn't want to talk about what Trump actually did so their only move is to try to talk about the investigation itself.
What Trump did is not illegal. In fact, it is well within his powers. The reason GOP pols don't want to talk about it is that many of them are probably compromised too by getting their kids jobs that they wouldn't have otherwise.
JohnRawls wrote:What about Clinton going batshit recently and saying that Russia has plants inside the Democratic party? Oh and the Greens are also Russian assets.
The neocons/neolibs and their Russia obsession apparently knows no bounds. Hillary thinks Tulsi Gabbard is a Russian asset, because Gabbard doesn't want to go to war all the time. This is the same Hillary Clinton who opposed George W. Bush's troop surge in Iraq (which worked by the way).
jimjam wrote:Welcome to Donald in Wonderland
They just tripped Mulvaney up. Nothing interesting.
Finfinder wrote:LOL they are holding a secret star chamber to supersede an entire election without allowing the person to defend themselves nor the public to see what they are doing.
This is where I think the intelligence community does not understand the general public. There is no reason to keep this secret.
SpecialOlympian wrote:Finfinder, is there some reason you would rather talk about the process (which you and all of PoFo's right wing either genuinely don't understand or pretend not to so as to keep the conversation on the process) than what Trump actually did?
Do you have a problem with what Trump did? If so, why? He hasn't broken any laws.
JohnRawls wrote:Why couldn't Mccain or Romney do it? Perhaps for the same reason Hillary couldn't?
The neolibs/neocons are total assholes. At one point or another, they really piss people off and those people remember it on election day.
SpecialOlympian wrote:If we're going to talk about corrupt failsons of politicians, I say we look at Kushner first. Did you know he had to amend his security clearance application repeatedly because he kept "forgetting" things? Normally, repeated omissions would result in federal felony charges. Don't you think it's odd that the president's step son received such favorable treatment? Or that he's now receiving hundreds of millions in investments from Chinese businesses?
I think it's strange we're hearing it from you and not from Joe Biden or Elizabeth Warren.
SpecialOlympian wrote:that GOP members can not discuss the phone call because it is indefensible.
It's totally defensible. It's not even illegal. Looking into Biden's corruption is a duty of the POTUS.
Rancid wrote:How is Trumps decision to host the G7 at his property acceptable, and the whole Biden thing not?
Trump donates any profit from official visits to the US treasury. He doesn't have to do that, but he does. The issue with Biden is that he took an affirmative step to get a prosecutor fired who was investigating Burisma where his son was on the board of directors. Prior to the New York Times notifying Biden of the investigation, there had been no effort by Biden to fire the prosecutor in question. On its face, the Biden situation is a conflict of interest, and it's possible that laws were broken. In the Trump case, as I said, he donates profits back to the treasury for official visits, so he technically gains nothing.
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