Rancid wrote:Is there difference between law & what is morally/ethically right?
Of course. Abortion is legal for example, and for purely selfish reasons that have nothing to do with life, health, or even economics. There is often a big gap between what is legal and what is moral. Do you disagree?
Stormsmith wrote:Perhaps. Perhaps not. As I said earlier, Speaker Pelosi is clever. She knows what happened with President Nixon. Lather, rinse, repeat.
Trump is not Nixon, and neither are the bulk of his supporters a "silent" majority. They'll take the Republican party down with Trump if that's what the establishment wants to do.
JohnRawls wrote: More than 50% of US population is for impeaching Trump and this number will inevitably grow so it will be a decision for the senate to block the impeachment or not.(Same as with same-sex marriage. Nobody was for it until the opinion of the public changed and then almost everyone was for it)
That all depends on whether you believe the polls. Most homosexuals don't get married. It wasn't even a majority issue for them. It's just politicians, judges and media personalities getting paid off to state that they are for something.
Stormsmith wrote:Most of them, I think, are frightened of being primaried.
Look how many Republicans lost seats in 2018. Is it that Democrats suddenly became popular? It's because many of them lied their asses off to the electorate about repealing ObamaCare. The establishment works across party lines. RomneyCare was supposed to pave the way for ObamaCare. People were supposed to like it. They wanted to run it for 10 years or so and then push for single payer. Yet, the Tea Party was not having it. They threw Republican leadership like Cantor out of office, not unlike AOC throwing out a Democratic party leadership candidate. That surprised the shit out of the establishment. Yet, the establishment still didn't listen. They bashed the Tea Party until the name "Tea Party" was gone, but the voters aren't gone. They aren't on the left with AOC and her ilk either. The middle is collapsing because the establishment has betrayed working and middle class voters, and the voters know it. The establishment's hold on power is tenuous.
Ukrainegate isn't simply about getting Trump out of power. It's about hanging on to power themselves by whatever means necessary, since it has become clear to them that they cannot win at the ballot box.
Stormsmith wrote:Your president doesn't treat his adversaries with respect, does he?
He kicks the crap out of 'em, and we love him for it.
"We have put together the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics."
-- Joe Biden