- 13 Nov 2019 04:10
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It should be hard. It should be rare. It should only be done by practitioners who believe in the curative usefulness of the procedure.
Abortion is readily available almost everywhere in the US. You have been deceived.
Do your own homework. I have posted this stuff many times.
No its not. Why would you say that? The doctor is imposing nothing. He proposes to do nothing. He only refuses to defy his conscience. The patient is free to find a practitioner with whom they should be comfortable.
No it doesn't. These are very specific and very specialized procedures. They are performed by practitioners skilled in them. You are articulating a solution in search of a problem.
I am saying that absent some contractual requirement to do so and absent an emergency, a doctor can refuse to treat anyone the wish to and they don't need a reason. Its an arcane concept called "freedom". And it exists in a free market.
No I am not. Look at your argument. You somehow imagine that any doctor can do these things. Actually most serious medical procedures are performed by specialists. GID specialists come in many flavors from psychiatrists to endocrinologists to surgeons. Not all of these can or ought to do this stuff. Only those who are trained and motivated to do so. You want us to somehow believe that a doctor invests years learning to do gender reassignment surgery and then decides his religion won't let him do it. Doctors are smart by and large. You are imagining a situation that is highly unlikely to ever occur. BUT. At the end of the day, if the mechanic does not want to work on your car, find another mechanic.
Doctors have the same right to religious freedom that you do. Even at the inconvenience of someone else. Tell us how this parade of horribles you imagine might actually come to pass.
@Pants-of-dog The way medical care is structured in the US, it may be difficult to find a doctor or insurance provided who will do it.
It should be hard. It should be rare. It should only be done by practitioners who believe in the curative usefulness of the procedure.
The stunning lack of access to abortion is a good example of how you guys theoretically have access but real access is very limited.
Abortion is readily available almost everywhere in the US. You have been deceived.
Where are these stats and how do they show harm?
Do your own homework. I have posted this stuff many times.
This is about the freedom to impose the doctor’s religious beliefs on the patient.
No its not. Why would you say that? The doctor is imposing nothing. He proposes to do nothing. He only refuses to defy his conscience. The patient is free to find a practitioner with whom they should be comfortable.
That is not freedom, since it limits the patient’s ability to seek medical help.
No it doesn't. These are very specific and very specialized procedures. They are performed by practitioners skilled in them. You are articulating a solution in search of a problem.
No.
I said doctors would need a GOOD reason to deny care, and I defined that as a reason based on logic or evidence.
You are arguing that doctors can withhold medical treatment even without good reason.
I am saying that absent some contractual requirement to do so and absent an emergency, a doctor can refuse to treat anyone the wish to and they don't need a reason. Its an arcane concept called "freedom". And it exists in a free market.
You are contradicting yourself here.
On the one hand, you say that it would be easy to dind another doctor, then turn around and say that these specific doctors are specialists and are few and far between.
No I am not. Look at your argument. You somehow imagine that any doctor can do these things. Actually most serious medical procedures are performed by specialists. GID specialists come in many flavors from psychiatrists to endocrinologists to surgeons. Not all of these can or ought to do this stuff. Only those who are trained and motivated to do so. You want us to somehow believe that a doctor invests years learning to do gender reassignment surgery and then decides his religion won't let him do it. Doctors are smart by and large. You are imagining a situation that is highly unlikely to ever occur. BUT. At the end of the day, if the mechanic does not want to work on your car, find another mechanic.
Doctors have the same right to religious freedom that you do. Even at the inconvenience of someone else. Tell us how this parade of horribles you imagine might actually come to pass.
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God is a comedian playing to an audience that is afraid to laugh.
Voltaire