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#15054201
BigSteve wrote:Why do you believe the police weren't justified in shooting the guy who was about to start swinging away at the police officer with a machete?


Why do you believe posting a video of a black person being murdered was in any way relevant to this thread, Trump voter?

I'm sorry. Wasn't your position that Trump voters aren't racist? Why are you defending the guy who jacks off to videos of black people dying?
#15054222
blackjack21 wrote:
It's not a system of justice.




"The only legal way such can be accomplished is by the impeachment process. This article discusses the legal standard to be properly applied by members of the U.S. House of Representatives when voting for or against Articles of Impeachment, and members of the U.S. Senate when voting whether to convict and remove from office a President of the U.S., as well as the procedure to be followed...

The trial in the Senate is handled by "Managers" from the House of Representatives, with the assistance of attorneys employed for the prosecution of the impeachment case. The Senate sits as a jury..."

Because it's subject to SC review, it's part of the justice system.

Try writing a detective novel.

https://litigation.findlaw.com/legal-sy ... edure.html
#15054223
SpecialOlympian wrote:Why do you believe posting a video of a black person being murdered was in any way relevant to this thread, Trump voter?



No one was murdered in that video.

A scumbag was killed by a cop, but that's it...

I'm sorry.


Indeed, you are...
Last edited by BigSteve on 15 Dec 2019 13:35, edited 1 time in total.
#15054224
blackjack21 wrote:
As I've pointed out before, even artificial intelligence is racist and it doesn't have a prejudicial interest in race, because AI is not a race and is not implicitly white.



AI is not yet AI.

It does, however, provide a result heavily influenced by what the programmers put into it.

You did not respond on point, because Faux News (or wherever you get your fiction) will never talk about it. It doesn't get a lot of airtime on MSNBC, but at least there is a little.

There is no question that the Civil Rights Act, the VRA, and other measures helped. It did not, however, repair all the damage. Far from it, in one city, public transportation is routed around the Black area. They get one bus. Thousand of people needing work, and one damn bus.

There are literally thousands of things like that.

The Supreme Court decided pre-approval, in the VRA, was no longer needed. Less that 24 hours later, NC passed the biggest voter suppression bill in American history. They knew that sort of thing would happen. Read the dissents. Like a butcher with their thumb on the scale, they cheated.

You were talking about police violence. Holder was pushing police departments to clean up. Wanna guess how long it took Trump to stop it?

Again, once you start looking into this, it is nothing less than astonishing.
#15054234
BigSteve wrote:No one was murdered in that video.

A scumbag was killed by a cop, but that's it...



Indeed, you are...


Good job, Steve. You managed to successfully avoid the part where a fellow Trump voter was posting totally irrelevant black death in a thread that nothing to do with it. I will just assume you are cool with videos of black people being murdered, because apparently you are.

I guess that answers the question of: Are Trump voters racist? No, they just love it when people post completely irrelevant and off topic videos of black people dying. It's just their "thing."
#15054240
SpecialOlympian wrote:Good job, Steve. You managed to successfully avoid the part where a fellow Trump voter was posting totally irrelevant black death in a thread that nothing to do with it. I will just assume you are cool with videos of black people being murdered, because apparently you are.

I guess that answers the question of: Are Trump voters racist? No, they just love it when people post completely irrelevant and off topic videos of black people dying. It's just their "thing."



Here you have it: One of the whitest males in America shot by a white cop while crawling on the ground: Enjoy!
White male executed by white cop
#15054241
@late

I stated this in another thread some time ago, but what is legal in most cases is ultimately not about truth, it isn't about justice or punishing wrongs. It is ultimately about power and control over others. What is legal is ultimately about power. Because if our system was based on truth and justice, then Trump would be not just impeached but removed from office and then criminally charged with treason for aiding our enemy, Russia. That would be right and just outcome. We know that's not going to happen though. If any of us who were not Trump did this, they would have charged us with treason and hung us from the highest tree or put us in prison and threw away the key.

He'll be impeached but the republicans will ensure he gets away with his crimes and don't care that he committed crimes. It's like I said, truth, justice and holding legitimate wrong doers accountable is not what our system is about. Our system is based on one thing: power. Those with power get to do whatever they want and never get held accountable for their wrong doing while the rest of us have to follow the rules that those with power implement or we pay the price. See how that works?
#15054243
SpecialOlympian wrote: I will just assume you are cool with videos of black people being murdered, because apparently you are.


Well, that would be pretty stupid of you to do, seeing as no one was murdered in that video. No one.

I don't give a flying fuck what the skin colors are. As I said earlier, if the cop was black and the guy with the machete was white, I'd still support the cop.

Your incessant whining every time some black guy is killed is tiresome, although I suppose it's all you've got since you're not capable of actually making an intelligent argument...
#15054247
Politics_Observer wrote:Because if our system was based on truth and justice, then Trump would be not just impeached but removed from office and then criminally charged with treason for aiding our enemy, Russia.


How, exactly, did Trump aid Russia?

If any of us who were not Trump did this, they would have charged us with treason and hung us from the highest tree or put us in prison and threw away the key.


Such drama. I love the drama.

What did Trump do that was treasonous?

He'll be impeached but the republicans will ensure he gets away with his crimes and don't care that he committed crimes.


What crimes? I kn ow you snowflakes are still crying over the fact that he said "pussy" back in the 80's, but what crimes has he committed?


Those with power get to do whatever they want and never get held accountable for their wrong doing while the rest of us have to follow the rules that those with power implement or we pay the price.


Well, if you truly believe that, I guess you'd better behave...
#15054252
@BigSteve

BigSteve wrote:Well, if you truly believe that, I guess you'd better behave...


Ohh I do believe that which is why I behave. I don't want to go to jail or have my future ruined or destroyed by those with power. I know I am one of those people who doesn't have power so I am smart enough to know that I have to follow rules that people like Trump don't have to follow and doesn't follow at all. Plato once wrote that "the measure of a man is what he does with power." I guess Trump isn't much of a man. He also wrote that "He who is not a good servant will not be a good master." Trump has never been a servant which explains why he is not a good master (President). Part of good leadership is learning how to first and foremost, be a good servant. If you can't be a good follower or a good servant, then you will never be a good leader.

Edit: Some more food for thought. Think about Steve when you were in the Navy. The best officers (at least this was the case when I was in the Army) were those who spent several years as enlisted. They learned what it was like to be a follower (servant) and how to be a good follower before they became an officer (master).
#15054262
BigSteve wrote:Well, that would be pretty stupid of you to do, seeing as no one was murdered in that video. No one.

I don't give a flying fuck what the skin colors are. As I said earlier, if the cop was black and the guy with the machete was white, I'd still support the cop.

Your incessant whining every time some black guy is killed is tiresome, although I suppose it's all you've got since you're not capable of actually making an intelligent argument...


How is my "incessant whining" over a black person being murdered even relevant to this thread?

We are now at the stage of the argument where honkeys are whining because other people are correctly pointing out that crackers are jerking off to black murder porn. But, somehow, this is the fault of everyone who isn't white.

Why did blackjack decide to post a completely irrelevant video of a black man being shot in this thread? (Hint: he's a huge racist)
#15054267
SpecialOlympian wrote:How is my "incessant whining" over a black person being murdered even relevant to this thread?


What black person was murdered in that video?

We are now at the stage of the argument where honkeys are whining because other people are correctly pointing out that crackers are jerking off to black murder porn. But, somehow, this is the fault of everyone who isn't white.


Your continued use of these racial slurs makes you look stupid. You shouldn't do it. I've not called blacks the "N word", there's no need to use racial slurs when talking about white people...
#15054269
Again, Admin Edit: Rule 2 Violation, how was blackjack posting racial murder porn in any way relevant to the thread? How does a video of a black man being shot by the LAPD contribute to a discussion on the impeachment process?

Why are you defending it?

Why do you feel like you need to defend it? (Hint: it's because you're a huge racist)
#15054277
Politics_Observer wrote:Because if our system was based on truth and justice, then Trump would be not just impeached but removed from office and then criminally charged with treason for aiding our enemy, Russia.

Russia is not our enemy. Putin is one of the enemies of Cultural Marxists because he has dared to take pride in our European Pagan-Christian culture. But that still doesn't explain the anti Russian hysterical witch hunt. Liberals are not mad at Trump, because they think he's aided Putin. They're mad at Putin, because they think he's aided Trump. This is classic Trump derangement syndrome.

Anyway I have to say it is amusing the way the Jewish Supremacist Neo Cons and the Liberals have jumped into bed together over Russia. Its funny the way that the same people who have spent the last decade whining on about Dubbyha's intervention in Iraq are now demanding a permanent occupation of Syria.
#15054282
SpecialOlympian wrote:Again, BigHonkey, how was blackjack posting racial murder porn in any way relevant to the thread? How does a video of a black man being shot by the LAPD contribute to a discussion on the impeachment process?

The answer to that question is obvious: I triggered you, which apparently isn't all that hard to do. You jumped into the thread calling everybody you don't like "CHUD," which was a mid-1980s sci-fi horror firm where Cannibalistic Humanoid Underground Dwellers (CHUDs), New York City's homeless population, are terrorizing people. If you want to start your thread participation by insulting people, it shouldn't surprise you that I will simply play with your snowflake emotions.

Your substantive arguments involve things like:
SpecialOlympian wrote:I think Jim Jordan said it best during the hearings: "I rape children. I love raping children an this process is unfair."


@jimjam then decided to invoke Godwin's law and compare Trump to Hitler. @late decided to invoke anti-Semitism, and you decided to call everyone racist morons. So why did I post a video of a machete wielding black man who violently hijacked a car getting shot by the police after charging the police with the machete in your Los Angeles venue? It's to point out to others that your charges of racism are unfounded, while at the same time having fun triggering you. You seem to think it's okay to charge at police officers with a machete while black.

The police use non-lethal force when it's the more appropriate choice. Here's another example of that type of situation in LA:



These types of shootings also happen in places where you don't live. Like BigSteve, jimjam and others here spend time in Florida. In the following video, the police officer shoots a black man who is trying to drive away with the police officer on the car. Do you think the police officer was wrong in this case too? The police officer was very polite and congenial until the motorist decided to try to flee the scene.



Do you really think this is all a function of racism? That's the only reason we support Trump? That's why we think the impeachment of president Trump is a joke? It's because we're all racists?

Rich wrote:Russia is not our enemy. Putin is one of the enemies of Cultural Marxists because he has dared to take pride in our European Pagan-Christian culture.

Yes. The Russian state's embrace of Christianity is quite offensive to the political left. Prince Charles' disdain for Christianity and love of Islam is part of why he isn't particularly popular in the UK. I think Putin's suppression of LGBTQ propaganda is also deeply offensive to these people.

Rich wrote:Anyway I have to say it is amusing the way the Jewish Supremacist Neo Cons and the Liberals have jumped into bed together over Russia. Its funny the way that the same people who have spent the last decade whining on about Dubbyha's intervention in Iraq are now demanding a permanent occupation of Syria.

What's even more bewildering is that they've abandoned their own laws like the War Powers Act and their own responsibility to authorize the use of force while demanding that Trump use force without their lawful consent. As I've said before, the political left no longer make any sense, and they seem to act as though they have been liberated from any requirement to make sense.

What this thread is showing, at any rate, is that they knew all along that impeachment would fail. They just thought that maybe they could get some Trump supporters to like him less, and that didn't happen either--to their apparent horror.
#15054291
@Rich

If you think Russia isn't our enemy then I got some ocean front property in Arizona to sell you and you are one terribly naive fellow. Strongmen like Putin prey on naive people like you and so does Trump for that matter.

@Rich @BigSteve

Now, the evidence has been presented to both of you that establishes irrefutably that Trump is guilty of treason against the United States. Totally undeniable. But Trump nor the Republicans have loyalty to the US or the ideals of our constitution. They have loyalty to one thing and one thing only: POWER. And if that means selling the national security of the US down the river and betraying the US then so be it as long as they have power, that's all that matters to Trump and the republicans. It's not about values or patriotism or the ideals of the constitution, that's just bullshit that republicans give to their base to keep a few votes and that's all it is. They are empty words that republicans give to their voters and we know that based on their actions. It's basically their way of trying to throw dust in peoples eyes to blind them to their true intent and desires. If you think otherwise, then both of your are terribly naive. But the evidence that proves his guilt has been presented to you, but you choose to deny the facts and deny reality. Given that is the case, if I or anybody has to continue to explain this to you, then you will never understand.
#15054300
Politics_Observer wrote:@Rich

If you think Russia isn't our enemy then I got some ocean front property in Arizona to sell you and you are one terribly naive fellow. Strongmen like Putin prey on naive people like you and so does Trump for that matter.

@Rich @BigSteve

Now, the evidence has been presented to both of you that establishes irrefutably that Trump is guilty of treason against the United States. Totally undeniable. But Trump nor the Republicans have loyalty to the US or the ideals of our constitution. They have loyalty to one thing and one thing only: POWER. And if that means selling the national security of the US down the river and betraying the US then so be it as long as they have power, that's all that matters to Trump and the republicans. It's not about values or patriotism or the ideals of the constitution, that's just bullshit that republicans give to their base to keep a few votes and that's all it is. They are empty words that republicans give to their voters and we know that based on their actions. It's basically their way of trying to throw dust in peoples eyes to blind them to their true intent and desires. If you think otherwise, then both of your are terribly naive. But the evidence that proves his guilt has been presented to you, but you choose to deny the facts and deny reality. Given that is the case, if I or anybody has to continue to explain this to you, then you will never understand.


When I think of how shitty the next five years are going to be for you with President Trump in the White House, I smile...
#15054303
@BigSteve

Steve wrote:When I think of how shitty the next five years are going to be for you with President Trump in the White House, I smile...


I wouldn't smile too much because he's hurting your interests too whether you realize it or not. But it's not going to be shitty for me because if he gets elected again there is nothing I can do about it. All I can do is vote myself for who I think is most deserving of power and who will use that power the wisest and in the best interest of the country. If Trump gets elected again there isn't anything I can do about it. But that doesn't mean my life is going to be shitty for the next 5 years. It just means, I am going to worry about the things I can control and not worry about the things I can't control like Trump being elected again for example if he does get elected again. I don't get hung up on things I can't control. I worry about the things I can control.
#15054306
Politics_Observer wrote:Now, the evidence has been presented to both of you that establishes irrefutably that Trump is guilty of treason against the United States. Totally undeniable.


What evidence was that?
#15054318
blackjack21 wrote:@jimjam then decided to invoke Godwin's law and compare Trump to Hitler.


did I mention the "H" word? i'm not busting your balls ….. I seriously do not remember this. Please help my declining brain and show me where I did this :?:
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