Pants-of-dog wrote:Whether or not you believe it is irrelevant.
Such a foolish thing to say. It absolutely IS relevant. If people don't believe it, they won't vote for the person endorsing it. The plan has to be presented in such a manner as for it to maker sense. As of right now, no one on the left has gotten too specific as to how they're planning on paying for their pipe-dream programs, and they really need to do that if they want people to vote for them...
I am not discussing Sanders any more.
Has he become too uncomfortable a subject for you? Sanders' plan is ridiculous and unworkable.
Which is exactly why idiot libs will vote for him...
The reason I said “probably” is because the US health care system is so corrupt that it is probable that someone somewhere ends up embezzling or squandering funds for personal gain.
Doesn't matter. Basically now you're saying that it not only gives Sanders an out to go back on his word about a tax cut, but it allows for corruption.
Why would any sane individual believe that's a good idea?
Your doctor would simply offer the same care, but instead of you paying out of pocket, he would be paid by the government.
There is no reason why he would not be available or the quality would suffer.
Unless, of course, he decides to enter another field because he's no longer able to earn what he had been while practicing medicine. If my insurance company pays my doctor $1,000 for a procedure now, there's no way the government is going to pay him that same $1,000 for that same procedure. They'll either not approve the procedure, or they'll cover less of it and require me to pay more.
Again, that's assuming my doctor doesn't bail on medicine altogether and go into aviation (he's IFR rated). See, he and I have had this discussion, and that's exactly what he would do. Congratulations, idiot libs, you just forced one of the finest doctors in the world out of medicine...
Then why do they work in literally every other country that does it, including developing countries?
Does the rest of the world have magic finances that the USA does not?
I think this near-deliberate ignorance of health care systems around the world is based partly on this irrational fear of “socialism”.
I don't care what goes on around the world. I don't live there. I care about what happens here.
I know you'll dismiss this, but here's a little anecdote for you:
About ten years ago, I was in Toronto on business. While I was there I developed a pretty kickin' sinus infection. I'd had them before, of course, and was well aware that all I needed was a handful of antibiotics to clear it up.
I called one of my clients (more of a friend than a client) who had kids. Kids are always getting strep throat and such, so I asked if he had any amoxicillin or penicillin around the house. He told me that he didn't, but that one of his customers was a dentist in Mississauga and might be able to help me. I happened to know this customer, as well. My buddy called him and gave him my number. In about a minute, my phone rang and it was "Doctor Mike".
He said he didn't have regular hours that day, but that I should come in anyway. He got one of his assistants to come in, as well. The right side of my face was severely swollen, and he suggested that I not fly until I got a handle on the infection (I was leaving for San Diego three days later).
In short, he hit me with a shot of penicillin and wrote me a prescription, as well. When I asked him what I owed him, he smiled and said "You'll have to pay the pharmacy for the prescription, but you don't owe me anything. And be glad you're an American. If you were Canadian you'd have waited three weeks to see me."
He did it all off the books and unrecorded. I have forever since referred to him as the "Mob Doctor".
Now, whether he was pulling my leg about waiting three weeks or being serious (I have
heard horror stories), I would much rather pay out of pocket and get seen now
than let the government pay and be seen three weeks
A government run health care system would have me suffering through the latter...
This is incorrect, as far as I can tell.
So, you think the government is just going to go ahead and continue to pay my doctor the same amount that I have to pay him?
That's so naive...
Why would you be unable to see your doctor?
Because my doctor is either going to find a new line of work or I'll be required to pay more for the level of care I currently receive.
Again, how is that beneficial to me?
Courage is knowing that something will hurt and doing it anyway. Stupidity is the same thing. That's why life is hard...