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Pants-of-dog wrote:The vast majority of buildings in Cuba are made from reinforced concrete and are low rise.

Even in the event of a building collapse, anyone inside the building would probably be fine and have time to get out safely.

I also doubt that building collapse is a problem, since the average Cuban maintenance person probably knows how to repair and maintain simple concrete structures.

Exactly.

Building collapses are mainly a problem in Havana, with its fancy but cheaply constructed 5-10 story palace-like structures that were not designed to withstand its climate.

But these structures are beyond the handyman knowledge of even a talented layman. Like I said, they're fantasy structures, and weren't built to last longer than the life of the mafia guy who ordered them built.

skinster wrote:Qatz, where did you go on your bike tour? I had such a great time on the one I went on in Cuba. Would love to go back there. How's the weather there at this time of year?

We did Vedado, Centro Havana, Old City, and Casablanca. It was the 'real Havana' tour. A lot of ordinary street scenes that I really liked. The weather was perfect for biking: 25 degrees C by day, and as low as 18 by night.
Stormsmith wrote:What evidence have you that children are more likely to be sex slaves in Cuba than they are elsewhere?

And as for adult women, they are selling themse!ves,even to their husbands, as they see fit. You know, like football players sell themselves.

As I get to know Cuba more, the sexual promiscuous bothers me less and less, and intrigues me more and more. Revolutionary sexuality means that you re-think modern, bourgouis attitudes regarding sexual prudence, and think about what 'an ideal world' (of sexuality) would look like. Cuba seems pretty close to that ideal world.
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QatzelOk wrote:We did Vedado, Centro Havana, Old City, and Casablanca. It was the 'real Havana' tour. A lot of ordinary street scenes that I really liked. The weather was perfect for biking: 25 degrees C by day, and as low as 18 by night.


Sounds great. The one I went on took us to Revolution Square, University of Havana, one other place and a forest. The forest bit was my favourite. Vedado is where I stayed when I visited Cuba, my first solo trip and it was wonderful living amongst the locals.

Revolutionary sexuality means that you re-think modern, bourgouis attitudes regarding sexual prudence, and think about what 'an ideal world' (of sexuality) would look like. Cuba seems pretty close to that ideal world.


I liked that dudes weren't gross and pervy, like what happens in the West. When they showed interest and you acknowledged it politely and moved on, they didn't go further. I felt safe walking around alone at night. 8)
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@QatzelOk

Re: As I get to know Cuba more, the sexual promiscuous bothers me less and less, and intrigues me more and more. Revolutionary sexuality means that you re-think modern, bourgouis attitudes regarding sexual prudence, and think about what 'an ideal world' (of sexuality) would look like. Cuba seems pretty close to that ideal world.

Agreed. Apparently this change in their thinking occurred in the 1990's when Russia rather pulled out. That loss of income made women re-think their views on sexuality.
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skinster wrote:If you guys are talking about prostitution, that's not a "sexuality". :)

I'm talking more about the informed promiscuity.

Of course, this leads to prostitution being socially accepted too, but there is an underlying 'sex isn't a taboo, scary thing' that does free the mind to contemplate other things other than how to get laid.

Also, Cubans look at sex as a kind of medicine, and not as some kind of long contract you sign with God, Jesus, Mohammed, the Apostles, the Pope, and a team of professional lawyers.
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skinster wrote:I thought prostitution was officially banned in Cuba like porn is. Both these bans are good since they harm/exploit (mainly) women.

It used to be that exclusively women got to "live the good life" while sleeping with rich foreign tourists. But with the liberation of gay culture in Havana.... I saw a lot of young gorgeous Cubans working the gay scene in much the same way.

The gay beach I found was beautiful, and the men were unbelievably cute and sexually LISTOS.
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QatzelOk wrote:It used to be that exclusively women got to "live the good life" while sleeping with rich foreign tourists. But with the liberation of gay culture in Havana.... I saw a lot of young gorgeous Cubans working the gay scene in much the same way.

The gay beach I found was beautiful, and the men were unbelievably cute and sexually LISTOS.



so you as a western man exploited those cheap gay prostitutes of Cuba?
Qatz thats capitalism at its best :lol:
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Zionist Nationalist wrote:so you as a western man exploited those cheap gay prostitutes of Cuba?
Qatz thats capitalism at its best :lol:

No, I didn't. And most of them weren't prostitutes. It just takes a lot of cash for them to be interested in having a good time with older tourists.

There are a lot of non-prostitutes like this in many countries, including your own.
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Am so pleased you finally received it. My back and left leg was so bad over the holidays I had trouble walking, but I finally managed to make it to the post office. I like it, too. Next time, i'll see if hubby can mail it to you from Canuba itself, if Cuban mail can reach you. Maybe you could ask at your post office...
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Now I feel bad you struggled to the post office to send it, so I shall appreciate it even more than I already do. I like little baby Che's hat in this month. Will share comments on the pics of upcoming months. :D

If you and your hubby are near me any time before any of us die I shall buy you a bottle of whatever ye like - within reason - for your kindness <3

Sivad is reading this pissed at how much love Cuba brings into the world, ha.
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Patrickov wrote:I do not really think it can be called "love that Cuba brings to the world".

The so many Cubans went to Angola in order to help all of Africa break away from the usurious and colonial trashing by European countries... with no gain for Cuba... demonstrates a level of altruism that the United States and Canada HAVE NEVER SHOWN in my entire lifetime.

Our countries just pretend to 'help other countries' by bombing them and then stealing their resources. The dropping of tons of poisons on Korea and Vietnam are exactly the opposite of the aid that Cuba has given both Angola, and the rest of the world's countries that needed doctors for whatever reason. (Mas medicos)

Can you imagine the USA providing hundred of thousands of bargain-basement doctors to poor countries? I can't. But I can imagine the USA invading Haiti every few years to make sure white Americans are profiting from all the resource exploitation in Haiti (instead of the Haitian people).
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QatzelOk wrote:The so many Cubans went to Angola in order to help all of Africa break away from the usurious and colonial trashing by European countries... with no gain for Cuba... demonstrates a level of altruism that the United States and Canada HAVE NEVER SHOWN in my entire lifetime.

Our countries just pretend to 'help other countries' by bombing them and then stealing their resources. The dropping of tons of poisons on Korea and Vietnam are exactly the opposite of the aid that Cuba has given both Angola, and the rest of the world's countries that needed doctors for whatever reason. (Mas medicos)

Can you imagine the USA providing hundred of thousands of bargain-basement doctors to poor countries? I can't. But I can imagine the USA invading Haiti every few years to make sure white Americans are profiting from all the resource exploitation in Haiti (instead of the Haitian people).


I was relating to #15060067, which was about sex service / prostitution, not medical assistance. Therefore, the above statement is not related to what I have commented.
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Patrickov wrote:I was relating to #15060067, which was about sex service / prostitution, not medical assistance. Therefore, the above statement is not related to what I have commented.

Numbered corporations exist mainly to help them escape responsibility for the harm they do. I'm thinking that numbered posts are the same : a way to camouflage poor thinking.
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@skinster this city is filled with Cubans. A lot of them live here and I get to talk to them all the time.

Cubans and Yucatecans have some passionate arguments all the time. But, I have had even more passionate ones.

Lol. Cubans in general are very educated people. Mexicans are a lot less formally educated. In general.

But both groups tend to be very creative problem solvers. It makes for interesting street and small micro business scenes. There are Cubans practicing medicine, selling things, owning restaurants, growing oranges, opening all kinds of services. They are highly sought after for diabetes, cancer treatments, dental work, geriatric care, pediatrics, and administration for many large and small businesses. It is also very common to have them working in the arts and in sports here in Mexico. Baseball coaches, swim coaches, women's volleyball coaching, and everything you can think of in dance, ballet, tap, salsa, modern, classical chamber music, and so much more.

In fact, I got to argue with the Mexicans all the time here who insist I am Cuban....and I am not.

They are used to Cubans not Puerto Ricans. It is interesting. ;)
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