Beren wrote:They can't stop Bernie at the convention because they and the party are obviously finished then. The first and last thing that can stop Sanders is Trump.
That's why I say people like Nancy Pelosi, Chris Matthews, etc. will be crying in the voting booths as they pull the lever for Trump.
Rich wrote:Warren attempted to steal the Bernie lane from Bernie, by laughably trying to portray him as a women hater.
She did the same thing to Bloomberg, who just took it. Tucker Carlson had a guest on who said words to the effect of, "Mike Bloomberg is the only candidate to spend $400M of his own money only to be scalped by a fake Indian." I never realized he called anybody a "fat broad" or a "horse-faced lesbian"--the latter one had me laughing and thinking maybe I should give Bloomberg a chance. However, Bernie would do so much more to disillusion the establishment.
Tainari88 wrote:I would love to see a Bernie Sanders/Tulsi Gabbard or Bernie Sanders/Jill Stein ticket.
That would be great. I'm an independent, so I can't vote Republican in the primary. So I think I'll vote for Sanders just to screw things up for the Democrats even more.
Taianri88 wrote: The reality is that Wall Street needs to get scared deeply. They have been coasting for decades without any kind of regulations or control and allowed the billionaires and the corruption.
We agree on that much. That's why I'm pulling for Bernie in the primaries. I like listening to Tim Pool on this, because he's basically a centrist Democrat who understand exactly why Trump won, and why the Democrats are failing so miserably.
Tainari88 wrote:The courts are an issue. Stacked with conservative assholes they won't regulate the Wall Street crowd.
Congress has plenary authority to regulate commerce. The courts cannot stop that. The courts have only curtailed campaign finance regulations. It's too bad Howard Schultz didn't run. He understand working class people so much better than Bloomberg.
Tainari88 wrote:Or at least as far left as can be done and make sure the mayors and governorships of the majority of the states are Left candidates that win.
You're getting your hopes up.
Tainari88 wrote:Make sure there is fear within the Democratic party. Fear of not paying attention to the will of the majority and especially the young people who want a left answer to all that stupid Far Right racism, elitism, anti immigrant hysteria, and hatred of minorities.
That is the will of the majority. However, it's pointless to argue that they hate minorities. They just hate their wages being driven down and/or their jobs being shipped overseas. It's Wall Street that's sowing the seeds of "Trump is a racist," because he's not on their side with respect to illegal immigration. The Democratic establishment isn't going to react well to Bernie either, because they have been flirting with socialism for so long. What they didn't anticipate was that all the immigrants would vote socialist. They were just supposed to fall in line and do as they were told. It's not happening. So their illegal alien campaign has them seeing the end of their own reign, when they thought it would deliver them electoral victory in perpetuity.
Tainari88 wrote:The demographic shift in the USA where millions of young Latino youth register to vote every year? Is going to change the style of American politics.
It already has. AOC has a dozen challengers in her primary. The establishment is doing anything it can to survive now, and that means they will be trying to kill of the squad politically speaking.
Tainari88 wrote: The Republican party sucks badly for Latin people.
Not for lawfully resident or US citizens. Their wages are going up faster than the top 1% for the first time in a long time. Trump said he would do that for Latinos and he has delivered.
Tainari88 wrote:The Latin American people in general are lower class people in the USA.
That's why you should see the embrace of illegal immigration by Democrats for what it is: raw exploitation.
Tainari88 wrote:Puerto Ricans are the second largest Latin American group in the USA. After Mexicans.
What's that tell you about illegal immigration? It's designed to make you less relevant. It's designed to make blacks less relevant. It's divide and conquer pure and simple.
Tainari88 wrote:Victory is ours!
Not in 2020 is my guess.
Tainari88 wrote: Make those elitist arrogant pieces of shit quake in their boots and fear the backlash of the huge amount of people they have been living off of like vultures for DECADES.
That's the victory in 2020 if we can get Bernie the nomination--a complete shutout for the establishment. They've never seen it before. In 68, they had Nixon. In '80 they had Carter. In '84, they had Mondale. Every election since has been establishmentarian until Trump. If Bernie wins, they will have to vote for Trump. The humiliation will be complete.
John Rawls wrote:1) The groups that voted who helped "Killary", will not help Bernie. Some of those groups are pro-business.(Not just oligarch but people also) They are severely against Trump but in a race of Trump vs Bernie, they don't have much of a choice. They will side with Trump.
John Rawls wrote:They might not hate Trump as much as the business community but there is a lot of dislike between them and Trump.
A lot of the business community LOVES Trump. Trump is more a Reaganite. He's helpful to smaller business. By contrast, the Republicans since Bush I have been more fascist in favoring large corporations and squeezing small ones, which is the backbone of employment in America. Trump's tax cuts also helped big businesses mightily.
John Rawls wrote:There are more fringe groups that are harder to identify like single women, who once again, do not see a reason for healthcare or why they should pay for somebody elses college etc. They dislike Trump but Bernie is not a choice for them because of what he stands for and who he is.
Basically a lot of the groups who absolutely hate Trump have no choice but to support Trump.
Other than college kids living with mommy and daddy, the left is actually very small in the US.
John Rawls wrote:3) Trump is very intrusive in to Bernie demographic/voters while Bernie is repulsive to Trump haters. I am not sure who will the Unions support. Bernie has been with them for ages but they love Trump also. All the trade deals and economic war with China, they love it.
Trump has dealt with unionized labor forever. He brought a bunch of unions to the White House. I think even the Teamsters. Obama was friendly with government employee unions and SEIU, but he didn't invite the Teamsters.
John Rawls wrote:The only groups that are safe for Bernie without Trump intrusion are progressive social policy people.
My buddy the Democrat (knows the governor personally, hangs out with politicians) has basically indicated that Trump is going to win--meaning he's going to vote for Trump, but can't bear to say it to anyone.
"This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia – hysterical xenophobia – and fearmongering to lead the way instead of science."
-- Joe Biden on banning travel from China during the coronavirus outbreak