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By Crantag
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Patrickov wrote:I understand the point, but I disagree with it because we Hongkongers have demostrated ourselves that individual efforts are much more important than the Government.

Ultimately it is ourselves who control whether or how many lives are lost, not the Government, especially not the one we oppose.

I suppose Americans, especially anti-Trump Americans, are smart enough to know that.

America is not Hong Kong. Moreover, most people in America won't take this thing seriously until it's too late, and that will only be confounded by the official ineptitude and dishonesty. Also, Americans have a long tradition of assuming they are insulated from catastrophes in other places in the world because of the two oceans. This virus is no exception.
By Patrickov
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Crantag wrote:America is not Hong Kong. Moreover, most people in America won't take this thing seriously until it's too late, and that will only be confounded by the official ineptitude and dishonesty. Also, Americans have a long tradition of assuming they are insulated from catastrophes in other places in the world because of the two oceans. This virus is no exception.


I think this a more reasonable explanation. Although I still expect more from anti-Trump people.
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Coronavirus Response

A tad over the top.

Unless the virus mutates it is not much more dangerous than being old and knackered and having a bad case of the flu (2% of all respiratory deaths). Sars had a death rate of more than 10%.
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Pence is probably the most competent person in the administration when it comes to actual day-to-day administration. His office is routinely lauded for its ability to "return calls" and "answer emails."

Too bad his previous experience with approaching health issues that anything that happens to you is God's punishment so no reason to do anything lol. God is punishing you for the lesbian messages in Mulan.
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SpecialOlympian wrote:Pence is probably the most competent person in the administration when it comes to actual day-to-day administration. His office is routinely lauded for its ability to "return calls" and "answer emails."

Too bad his previous experience with approaching health issues that anything that happens to you is God's punishment so no reason to do anything lol. God is punishing you for the lesbian messages in Mulan.

you missed a great chance for an electroshock joke
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Robert Urbanek wrote:Scenario: The virus mutates and persists through the fall. Many people fearing contagion don't go to the polls on election day and Trump, if losing, declares the election invalid because of the low turnout.
Is there a law in America requiring turnout to be at a certain level for elections to hold?

I will say there is more problem if the turnout is low but Trump allowing the result through if he wins.
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I discovered today that the "unknow origin " Solano County patient originally checked into a hospital less that a mile from where I live. At that point, she was sick enough to require a tube down her throat for oxygen.

I can see a political strategy in Trump naming Pence as the point man for the virus containment. If Pence fails, which seems likely, Trump can throw him under the bus and pick a more interesting running mate.
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Robert Urbanek wrote:
I discovered today that the "unknow origin " Solano County patient originally checked into a hospital less that a mile from where I live. At that point, she was sick enough to require a tube down her throat for oxygen.




That's not far from the military base where the 14 sick corona patients were taken. You're basically at Ground Zero.
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late wrote:Not what the CDC says.

or common sense..

It would have been common sense if the Democrats had been doing something about this coronavirus instead of shutting down Congress with this ridiculous impreachment hoax. It has actually been the Democrats that have sabotaged America's caronavirus response.
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Hey @Hindsite , the impeachment happened before Coronavirus even happened, so get your timelines straight. :knife:

So dumb... Why didn't your cocksucker Trump predict the future and simply not do things to get himself impeached?
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Hindsite wrote:
It would have been common sense if the Democrats had been doing something about this coronavirus instead of shutting down Congress with this ridiculous impreachment hoax. It has actually been the Democrats that have sabotaged America's caronavirus response.



Crisis management is handled by the White House.

Congress didn't throw away our pandemic teams. They didn't cut the budget. They didn't bring 14 sick people here against the advice of the CDC. They didn't give the people taking care of them training or protective gear. And then they let those exposed health workers go home, where the disease jumped to our first community transmission.

Words like incompetent and stupid aren't strong enough.

Brain dead works.
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Godstud wrote:Hey @Hindsite , the impeachment happened before Coronavirus even happened, so get your timelines straight. :knife:

More lies from the troll out of Thailand. Here are the facts:

The impeachment trial of Donald Trump, the 45th and incumbent president of the United States, began in the U.S. Senate on January 16, 2020, and concluded with his acquittal on February 5.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachme ... nald_Trump

President Trump put a band on travelers coming from China on January 31, 2020 because of the coronavirus and was criticized by the Democrats for doing it.

Timeline: How the new coronavirus spread

On December 31 last year, China alerted WHO to several cases of unusual pneumonia in Wuhan, a port city of 11 million people in the central Hubei province. The virus was unknown.

Several of those infected worked at the city's Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market, which was shut down on January 1.

As health experts worked to identify the virus amid growing alarm, the number of infections exceeded 40.

On January 5, Chinese officials ruled out the possibility that this was a recurrence of the severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) virus - an illness that originated in China and killed more than 770 people worldwide in 2002-2003.

On January 7, officials announced they had identified a new virus, according to the WHO. The novel virus was named 2019-nCoV and was identified as belonging to the coronavirus family, which includes SARS and the common cold.

On January 11, China announced its first death from the virus, a 61-year-old man who had purchased goods from the seafood market. Treatment did not improve his symptoms after he was admitted to hospital and he died of heart failure on the evening of January 9.

On [/b]January 13[/b], the WHO reported a case in Thailand, the first outside of China, in a woman who had arrived from Wuhan.

On January 16, Japan's health ministry reported a confirmed case in a man who had also visited Wuhan.

On January 17, as a second death was reported in Wuhan, health authorities in the US announced that three airports would start screening passengers arriving from the city.

Authorities in the United States, Nepal, France, Australia, Malaysia, Singapore, South Korea, Vietnam and Taiwan confirmed cases over the following days.

On January 20, China reported a third death and more than 200 infections, with cases also reported outside Hubei province including in the capital Beijing, Shanghai and Shenzhen.

Meanwhile, a Chinese expert on infectious diseases confirmed human-to-human transmission to state broadcaster CCTV, raising fears of a major outbreak as millions travelled for the Lunar New Year holiday.

Asian countries ramped up measures to block the spread of the virus, introducing mandatory screenings at airports of all arrivals from high-risk areas of China.

On January 22, the death toll in China jumped to 17 with more than 550 infections. Many European airports stepped up checks on flights from Wuhan.

Wuhan was placed under effective quarantine on January 23 as air and rail departures were suspended.

The same measures were announced for two more cities in Hubei province: Xiantao and Chibi.

Beijing cancelled events for the Lunar New Year, starting on January 25, while officials reported the first death outside Hubei.

The WHO said later on January 23 that the outbreak did not yet constitute a public emergency of international concern and there was "no evidence" of the virus spreading between humans outside of China.

By January 24, the death toll in China stood at 26, with the government reporting more than 830 infections.

The number of cities under lockdown in Hubei rose to 13, affecting 41 million people.

Shanghai Disneyland shut down and other cities announced the closure of entertainment venues. Beijing said a section of the Great Wall and other famous landmarks would also be closed.

On January 25, travel restrictions were imposed on a further five cities in Hubei, taking the overall number of people affected to 56 million.

Hong Kong meanwhile declared a virus emergency, cancelled Lunar New Year celebrations and restricted links to mainland China.

On January 26, the death toll rose to 56, with almost 2,000 cases confirmed as travel restrictions were increased and Hong Kong closed its Disneyland and Ocean Park theme parks.

New cases were confirmed in the US, Taiwan, Thailand, Japan and South Korea.

As of January 27, the death toll in China rose to 106, with 100 in Hubei province, authorities reported. Another 4,515 people in China were reported to be infected. There were 2,714 confirmed cases in Hubei province, up from 1,423 the day before.

On January 30, the WHO declared coronavirus a global emergency as the death toll in China jumped to 170, with 7,711 cases reported in the country, where the virus had spread to all 31 provinces.

India and the Philippines confirmed their first cases of the virus, with one infected patient in each country.

On January 31, the number of confirmed cases in China jumped to 9,809. Russia, Spain, Sweden and the United Kingdom confirmed their first cases of the virus.

OnFebruary 1, the death toll in China rose to 259, with 11,791 confirmed infections in the country, according to new figures released by the Chinese health authorities.

New cases were confirmed in Australia, Canada, Germany, Japan, Singapore, the US, the UAE and Vietnam.

As of February 2, the first death outside China, of a Chinese man from Wuhan, was reported in the Philippines.

The death toll in China rose to 304, with 14,380 infections reported.

On February 3, China reported 57 new deaths, bringing its death toll to at least 361. The number of cases rose to 17,205 across the country.

On February 4, China said the death toll rose to 425 people and the number of infected people stood at 20,438 in the mainland. Hong Kong also reported one death, bringing global deaths to 427. The first case was confirmed in Belgium in a person who was repatriated from Wuhan.

On February 5, more flights evacuating US citizens returned from Wuhan and the WHO reaffirmed there was "no known effective treatment" for the coronavirus.

Meanwhile, China reported 490 deaths and 24,324 cases of infection.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/01/ ... 54884.html
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