- 27 Feb 2020 08:10
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Capitalism is brutally simple. Scarcity. Supply and Demand. Marginal analysis. It is boiled down to basic forces just like physics. The thing is, most people don't believe it in spite of the empirical evidence.
Don't confuse libertarianism with anarchy. It's not the same thing.
I like to keep philosophy elevated a bit. I'm not ready to accept you as Socrates, Plato or Aristotle just yet. But keep trying Azuquita.
Well, we're both constrained to a degree by other demands, but that doesn't mean I'm not willing. I enjoy our dialog.
I'm not sure where you are coming from. Perhaps a pique of frustration? I do have a beef with the establishment, and I've stated in the most crude or distilled of terms--I don't think I should have to be ruled by my inferiors; and the establishment are my inferiors (they are yours too, btw). They are skilled at lying and at put-downs and at intimidation--and at violence on a small scale. They aren't good at much else other than grabbing other people's money. I have no patience left for them. In my book, being an alumnus of Harvard or Yale at this point is a social scar.
That is why the Democrats conceded to healthcare for illegal aliens at the expense of those who couldn't afford healthcare, and taxing those same people even more. There's a flaw in the American character these days to being agreeable, to being too nice. The British have it to a lesser degree, but they are a smaller country, so it is more devastating to them. The British will apologize to you for anything or nothing. There's still a bit of the public school system--defend your position, etc. that I think is admirable. Political correctness has been just so destructive. I hope I will have been said to have done my part in seeing it put on the ash heap of history.
I do. I don't enjoy exercise the way @jimjam does. That has to change, because even if I eat normally, I will gain weight without exercise--since I was about 40 years old the metabolism isn't what it used to be. I got E-Coli Shiga 2 AND! Norovirus Type 2 during Thanksgiving, so I have been quite leery of salads--this California boy. So I have learned to make Minestrone soup. It costs me about $30 a pot, but it lasts me a whole week multiple meals a day. I get my veggies that way.
What is it about a Bedouin that believes in recreational sex and abortion? They have structure in their society, but both liberalism and socialism want to tear it down.
Ahh... So you understand that we are not equal. You can line up 100 women. I can have sex with each of them--not at the same time of course, and not all on the same day. I can get each one of them pregnant. What happens to me physically? Nothing. Maybe a sore back? What happens to them? A life changing experience. There is a difference between being a man and being a woman. This is a fundamental aspect of why socialism is wrong, because it is hostile to nature itself.
I purchased Charles Murray's new book today--audible. I won't read it. I'll listen as I go for a walk. Too much winter food is making me fat, and jimjam won't be my friend if I get too fat.
That is nature's trick. Octavian Caesar needed taxpayers and an army. His rationale was different, and it prevailed for thousands of years until Justice Kennedy was either bribed or so demented and sentimental he could no longer understand 2000 years of stare decisis.
[quote=Tainari88]I won't talk about how it is when one gets married at age 18 like I did.[/quote]
Ah, but you did. Naturally, that is about the perfect time. By the time a woman is age 30, 90% of the eggs are already gone. The risk of birth defects begin to skyrocket after 40. That's nature. Until a few hundred years ago, women just generally didn't have kids at that age--they were lucky to live that long. We're both lucky to be alive. @jimjam and @late are even luckier still.
Maybe. She had better be kind and compassionate more than anything. I would take a kind woman over a brilliant cruel woman any day of they week.
Yeah. The 5G stuff is pressing. Someone asked me around lunch what I thought of the previous meeting, and I was late to it because another meeting--on minimalism no less--went over time and I missed the context. Right now, my best efforts are in the weeds. I have to see the forest next week.
That's not a correct interpretation. Capitalism is eliminating human input where human input is inefficient. When AI is smarter than the 7-11 clerk, AI wins that job. That's why we need to think about allocation of resources. AI doesn't need an apartment. AI doesn't need healthcare. AI doesn't vote--God help us if it ever does.
I don't want homosexuals to be compelled to become heterosexuals. I just don't think that is a good idea. I also don't think it is required that everybody understands and accepts homosexuality. I just think they need to tolerate basic human rights. That's a libertarian position @late thinks doesn't exist.
The state is interested in its own future. You don't have the mind of an emperor. The emperor wants a future for his empire. So he will dictate to others in furtherance of that objective. Octavian didn't care who you married, it just had to be a man and a woman, because that furthered the interest of the empire.
It is intrusive.
Keep in mind I grew up in California--that gave us the glorious Nixon and Reagan--other than Washington, the greatest electoral landslides in American history... when can only wonder what will happen in November. I pointed out in the gay marriage debates that it leaves out people like me--lifelong bachelors, not gay and not willing to prostrate myself to a "family court." I can't get my girlfriend out of county healthcare insurance. I can't put her on my plan. I can't do "domestic partnership" though that's what it is, because I'm male and she's female. Fuck the homosexuals. Fuck 'em all. At this point, I'm totally fine with them having to fight oppression. I will not come to their aid in the same way they did not come to mine.
In my estimation, behind the facade are some very wealthy families that have homosexual children, transgender children perhaps. That seems to be a bigger issue among Jewish populations, which is interesting.
Tell me about Andorra and San Marino. I'm all ears...
I said I realized I was not a Republican. As a young guy in my 20s, I was part of the Young Republicans. One of the weirder experiences of that group was that I live by what is called "Mount Diablo." As you might imagine, to Anglos, it means nothing at all. The closest approximation might be the Lamborghini Diablo. Yet, when I was just getting into politics, I weird Christian lady was adamant about changing the name of the vally to omit Diablo, because it meant Devil. So now you have a marker Azuquita. Mt. Diablo is an important geological marker for the borders of California.
No. Funny you should mention it. In the series, he is made to feel things which are meant to be emotions. He doesn't understand the inputs, but he is interested nonetheless. What happens if we give ourselves a larger frontal cortex? Do we become data? Do we experience our emotions something like a desire to take a pee?
Once again Azuquita... you have me on the run, but I'll be back. 5G pays the bills.
late wrote:Capitalism is not a simple system. Neither are the knowledge institutions, like science, it depends on. Or the governmental processes it depends on.
There are no libertarians. It's a fantasy.
Capitalism is brutally simple. Scarcity. Supply and Demand. Marginal analysis. It is boiled down to basic forces just like physics. The thing is, most people don't believe it in spite of the empirical evidence.
Don't confuse libertarianism with anarchy. It's not the same thing.
Tainari88 wrote:Hmm....
I like to keep philosophy elevated a bit. I'm not ready to accept you as Socrates, Plato or Aristotle just yet. But keep trying Azuquita.
Tainari88 wrote:I don't talk about a lot of things in this place. It doesn't mean I don't care. You open a topic on every country in the world and I will go there and you and I go over the salient points of each one's history? Are you willing to do that?
Well, we're both constrained to a degree by other demands, but that doesn't mean I'm not willing. I enjoy our dialog.
Tainari88 wrote:Because you care about destroying the liberals in the establishment of the Democratic party and the average sellout Republicans in the democratic party.
I'm not sure where you are coming from. Perhaps a pique of frustration? I do have a beef with the establishment, and I've stated in the most crude or distilled of terms--I don't think I should have to be ruled by my inferiors; and the establishment are my inferiors (they are yours too, btw). They are skilled at lying and at put-downs and at intimidation--and at violence on a small scale. They aren't good at much else other than grabbing other people's money. I have no patience left for them. In my book, being an alumnus of Harvard or Yale at this point is a social scar.
Tainari88 wrote:Being relentless my dear BJ. Never giving up. It is the only way one gets anywhere with trying to push human societies forward Relampaguito.
That is why the Democrats conceded to healthcare for illegal aliens at the expense of those who couldn't afford healthcare, and taxing those same people even more. There's a flaw in the American character these days to being agreeable, to being too nice. The British have it to a lesser degree, but they are a smaller country, so it is more devastating to them. The British will apologize to you for anything or nothing. There's still a bit of the public school system--defend your position, etc. that I think is admirable. Political correctness has been just so destructive. I hope I will have been said to have done my part in seeing it put on the ash heap of history.
Tainari88 wrote:You do?
I do. I don't enjoy exercise the way @jimjam does. That has to change, because even if I eat normally, I will gain weight without exercise--since I was about 40 years old the metabolism isn't what it used to be. I got E-Coli Shiga 2 AND! Norovirus Type 2 during Thanksgiving, so I have been quite leery of salads--this California boy. So I have learned to make Minestrone soup. It costs me about $30 a pot, but it lasts me a whole week multiple meals a day. I get my veggies that way.
Tainari88 wrote:How BJ?
What is it about a Bedouin that believes in recreational sex and abortion? They have structure in their society, but both liberalism and socialism want to tear it down.
Tainari88 wrote:And they find it hard to say no to sex being offered without any responsibilities. Women can act the same way but they have a higher price to pay if they don't want to get pregnant.
Ahh... So you understand that we are not equal. You can line up 100 women. I can have sex with each of them--not at the same time of course, and not all on the same day. I can get each one of them pregnant. What happens to me physically? Nothing. Maybe a sore back? What happens to them? A life changing experience. There is a difference between being a man and being a woman. This is a fundamental aspect of why socialism is wrong, because it is hostile to nature itself.
Tainari88 wrote:Babies are incredibly demanding of time, money, efforts and commitment and their mothers are vital in their first few years of life.
I purchased Charles Murray's new book today--audible. I won't read it. I'll listen as I go for a walk. Too much winter food is making me fat, and jimjam won't be my friend if I get too fat.
Tainari88 wrote:People want to get married for ideas of love and romance and how they feel about each other Senor.
That is nature's trick. Octavian Caesar needed taxpayers and an army. His rationale was different, and it prevailed for thousands of years until Justice Kennedy was either bribed or so demented and sentimental he could no longer understand 2000 years of stare decisis.
[quote=Tainari88]I won't talk about how it is when one gets married at age 18 like I did.[/quote]
Ah, but you did. Naturally, that is about the perfect time. By the time a woman is age 30, 90% of the eggs are already gone. The risk of birth defects begin to skyrocket after 40. That's nature. Until a few hundred years ago, women just generally didn't have kids at that age--they were lucky to live that long. We're both lucky to be alive. @jimjam and @late are even luckier still.
Tainari88 wrote:I don't know who will wind up holding on to that mind of yours BJ. She better be damn intelligent that is for sure!
Maybe. She had better be kind and compassionate more than anything. I would take a kind woman over a brilliant cruel woman any day of they week.
Tainari88 wrote:I still smile about you saying I wrung you out the other day. Makes me chuckle.
Yeah. The 5G stuff is pressing. Someone asked me around lunch what I thought of the previous meeting, and I was late to it because another meeting--on minimalism no less--went over time and I missed the context. Right now, my best efforts are in the weeds. I have to see the forest next week.
Tainari88 wrote:I think capitalism is going to create inefficiencies with time....especially with unemployed redundant people with Artificial Intelligence.
That's not a correct interpretation. Capitalism is eliminating human input where human input is inefficient. When AI is smarter than the 7-11 clerk, AI wins that job. That's why we need to think about allocation of resources. AI doesn't need an apartment. AI doesn't need healthcare. AI doesn't vote--God help us if it ever does.
Tainari88 wrote:In the end they prefer having sexual relationships with members of their own sex. I don't think it is my business to tell a woman who wants to have sex with another woman that that is prohibited.
I don't want homosexuals to be compelled to become heterosexuals. I just don't think that is a good idea. I also don't think it is required that everybody understands and accepts homosexuality. I just think they need to tolerate basic human rights. That's a libertarian position @late thinks doesn't exist.
Tainari88 wrote:The state shouldn't be involved in dictating to others who they want to have sex with.
The state is interested in its own future. You don't have the mind of an emperor. The emperor wants a future for his empire. So he will dictate to others in furtherance of that objective. Octavian didn't care who you married, it just had to be a man and a woman, because that furthered the interest of the empire.
Tainari88 wrote:I find it intrusive. Period.
It is intrusive.
Tainari88 wrote:If they want to get married because they want legal contracts as you pointed out was something about why the marriage institution was made? It is a legal contract. Let them have it. I don't see it as a problem BJ. Again, let it be. Let people have sex. As a conservative BJ? You are what? You are going to never have sex unless she marries you first? Hmm...how old are you? 52? I don't think you are following a conventional sexual life. I am guessing you said yes to out of wedlock sex and violated some conservative precept.
Keep in mind I grew up in California--that gave us the glorious Nixon and Reagan--other than Washington, the greatest electoral landslides in American history... when can only wonder what will happen in November. I pointed out in the gay marriage debates that it leaves out people like me--lifelong bachelors, not gay and not willing to prostrate myself to a "family court." I can't get my girlfriend out of county healthcare insurance. I can't put her on my plan. I can't do "domestic partnership" though that's what it is, because I'm male and she's female. Fuck the homosexuals. Fuck 'em all. At this point, I'm totally fine with them having to fight oppression. I will not come to their aid in the same way they did not come to mine.
Taianari88 wrote:But, isn't that what you want to happen with the implosion of the establishment and the demise of the Repuke and Demon party? You sure are getting very very unconventional BJ....curiouser and curiouser as one would say...hmmm. Hombre curioso you are...?
In my estimation, behind the facade are some very wealthy families that have homosexual children, transgender children perhaps. That seems to be a bigger issue among Jewish populations, which is interesting.
Tainari88 wrote:Lack of empathy is about underdeveloped corazon. Which you have.
Tell me about Andorra and San Marino. I'm all ears...
Tainari88 wrote:You would think you want to change the name of San Francisco to St Francis to de-latinize it. I am making a joke now BJ. Don't take it seriously.
I said I realized I was not a Republican. As a young guy in my 20s, I was part of the Young Republicans. One of the weirder experiences of that group was that I live by what is called "Mount Diablo." As you might imagine, to Anglos, it means nothing at all. The closest approximation might be the Lamborghini Diablo. Yet, when I was just getting into politics, I weird Christian lady was adamant about changing the name of the vally to omit Diablo, because it meant Devil. So now you have a marker Azuquita. Mt. Diablo is an important geological marker for the borders of California.
Tainari88 wrote:We are not living in future world yet where we have someone like a Data from the Star Trek series.
No. Funny you should mention it. In the series, he is made to feel things which are meant to be emotions. He doesn't understand the inputs, but he is interested nonetheless. What happens if we give ourselves a larger frontal cortex? Do we become data? Do we experience our emotions something like a desire to take a pee?
Once again Azuquita... you have me on the run, but I'll be back. 5G pays the bills.
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