- 26 May 2020 15:55
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You. You're market supremacism, thinking that the market is almighty. You're the religious one.
The fact that 'primitive communism' existed proves that your 'human nature' claim of biology and psychology is bunk.
You're just describing *neuroanatomy*, which isn't necessarily *causative* -- we're *social* beings, so we need to look at *social* dynamics.
This is still *learned*, *social* behavior, and it's *not* the *modern* world.
Nope, because in our *modern* society tribalism is *not* needed -- much under capitalism, for example, is *individualized*, and self-determination is an important political principle, and would be the *point* of a workers-of-the-world socialism, and then of a post-capitalist communism.
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You're off on a tangent again.
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And that's a political / social *problem*, because the economy should be producing for those who *need* the stuff from it, primarily.
Julian658 wrote:
What is market supremacism?
You. You're market supremacism, thinking that the market is almighty. You're the religious one.
Julian658 wrote:
We cannot be hunter and gatherer again. Yes. socialism works great in tiny groups where there is kinship and a monoculture.
The fact that 'primitive communism' existed proves that your 'human nature' claim of biology and psychology is bunk.
Julian658 wrote:
Nope: It is learned, but there is a biological basis. This applies to most human behaviors. The biological impulse is neutralized by the frontal lobe if there is a desire to do so. IS not so much racism, the main issue is tribalism.
You're just describing *neuroanatomy*, which isn't necessarily *causative* -- we're *social* beings, so we need to look at *social* dynamics.
Julian658 wrote:
https://www.independent.com/2018/03/07/ ... tribalism/
This is still *learned*, *social* behavior, and it's *not* the *modern* world.
Julian658 wrote:
Leads to tribalism and then violence.
Nope, because in our *modern* society tribalism is *not* needed -- much under capitalism, for example, is *individualized*, and self-determination is an important political principle, and would be the *point* of a workers-of-the-world socialism, and then of a post-capitalist communism.
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ckaihatsu wrote:
Nope, slavery has *not* always been part of human history -- it parallels the rise of *commodity production*, or modern capitalism, since slaves were effectively labor-personified-and-commodified:
Julian658 wrote:
We cannot be hunter and gatherer again.
You're off on a tangent again.
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ckaihatsu wrote:
No, the market reflects what people *with money* want, and the more money, the more wealth-oriented *production* there is, too, as with skyscrapers and luxury goods.
Julian658 wrote:
Actually a fair point. People with no money cannot directly create demand in the market.
And that's a political / social *problem*, because the economy should be producing for those who *need* the stuff from it, primarily.