Donna wrote:lol the Trump administration is going to blame communists for the riots.
lol and the leftist media is trying desperately to blame imaginary nazis for the riots.
Saeko wrote:For those of you who are still going on like "hurr durr, them n****** were just waiting for a chance to loot, derp."
https://www.courthousenews.com/minnesot ... ist-groups
Very vague, talking about internet posts and white supremacist groups. Interesting that they don't say where these online posts where found and which white supremacist groups they were linked to. Almost like they made this shit up out of wholecloth. The only white supremacist groups in America are the ones locked up in prison, or the ones who are paid by intelligence agencies to organize low IQ whites to entrap them by getting them to say that they are going to do something illegal.
Pants-of-dog wrote:@Wellsy did not claim that things have gotten worse than the 1960s.
He said the the structural racism inherent in the system was never addessed.
Who is not addressing it? I've seen it being discussed on practically a daily basis every day since Obama's second term. We can't get away from it. Wanna see some examples?
MSNBC addresses raceCNN addresses racePants-of-dog wrote:And we also now have the problem of people who pretend that racism is over.
That's so dumb. As long as there are different races there will always be racism.
And people who enter discussions of racist police brutality and try to derail the conversation by trying to start a debate on whether or not racism is really a problem.
The real discussion is that police brutality is an epidemic that effects everyone pretty much equally, and the derailment is injecting race in order to shape it to one's personal bias.
Wellsy wrote:Typing on my phone so trying to keep it simple ie without too much detail and much left to inference.
Well the shared circumstance does not alone constitute a class of people as they must necessarily form their aims. And the existing group in our times is the Black Lives Matter which has a what they believe page although it is a bit vague but does express some basic principles such as opposition to violence against blacks and to improve the standing of black people as a whole, not individually.
But the more specifics aren’t yet solidified except as proven in organizational activism. But the problem of race has merely changed form rather than been essential overcome.
My vague impression of the circumstance of blacks in the US specifically is that they have long been an underclass excluded from much power and prosperity afforded to others by historical trajectory in things even as the new deal progressive reforms.
Blacks are not excluded from power though. Here are a list of
black mayors in the US. This list is already outdated but at least one black mayor on the list was replaced by another black person in that same city. Please note that many of the cities where blacks are mayors happen to be in cities where blacks aren't even the majority demographic. Also,
black mayors allbelong to an association, where they have consolidated their power.
And that's not even counting all of the black city council members and other elected officials. Hell, even chief of police in Minnesota is a black man.
Ones status in society is based on the average rather than the exceptions, and black Americans are still confined to ghettos and the violence against them while in the form of race seems to me to be an expression of class violence, of which many whites of the lower class can endure also but their perception can be altered by the average sense of whiteness in the US.
The violence done to blacks in the ghetto are done first and foremost by other blacks, not whites or any other races who go out of their way to not ever find themselves in black ghettos. As a matter of fact, even police don't even want to police some of these ghettos, depending on the city. And when they are forced to go into these areas there can be violent confrontations. None of this is white people's fault by the way, as there are many programs establish by whites to help these people, such as food, housing and daycare subsidies.
There is great resistance to the average class position of blacks and its been a dividing part for the US from its very
founding. Because the sort of power needed to overcome racial inequality and i justice would be too strong a threat to the present state that it ends up to radical to simply be a matter of reform as far as i can tell.
https://www.lacan.com/zizrobes.htm
Again, I just don't see any opposition to blacks collectively as a group. You seem to want to discount all of the black success in America, particularly in the music, arts and entertainment, where blacks hold a lock on many positions within them, and focus on the extreme low end of the black demographic. But I guess that is how the left always looks at everything; focus on the poor and use them as a battering ram to the rest of civil society.
As for your link, it left me repulsed.