wat0n wrote:All those things are terrible indeed, so are the murders that have resulted from the temporary breakdown in law and order as a result of the rioting. It's not just "some broken windows".
Yes, you made that claim earlier and the evidence you provided to support your claim actually contradicted it.
So, yes, the rioting is irrelevant in comparison to the violence, which is mostly caused by the police.
Furthermore, I think he will at the very least get a second degree manslaughter conviction because Chauvin committed "a culpable negligence whereby the person creates an unreasonable risk, and consciously takes chances of causing death or great bodily harm to another", and possibly a third degree murder one as well. Floyd's family can also request an independent autopsy to compare with the coroner's.
This seems unlikely. He is almost certain to get off the third degree murder charge, because the law specifically targets people who indiscriminately endanger others, while the murdering cop deliberately targeted Mr. Floyd, a specific individual.
Meanwhile, the initial autopsy is laying the groundwork for the manslaughter charge to be dismissed because he apparently did not die from choking.
It sure helps to work with the police and attorneys who are supposedly investigating you!
I would say they can represent community participation and in particular can act as a counterweight if the laws on the procedural matters are appropriately adjusted (this should at least include training) and the general trends of less societal racism continue. The added community participation in the process can help to actually legitimize the process, as a Chilean I assume you are aware that there the process is actually based on the opposite (which also has pros and cons), and that there is a legitimacy issue there that's substantially more severe than in the US.
I doubt this, primary because the cases almost never even get to trial.
It should be noted, however, that the 200 figure includes people from all races. And this is important too:
Why would they be charged if they haven't broken the law? Generally speaking there is no criminal liability for law enforcement if they use deadly force as part of the legitimate exercise of their functions, be it in the USA or abroad.
It's not like there are several instances when the use of deadly force by law enforcement is perfectly legitimate, am I right?
There is only one important point:
Are all these hundreds of killings justified? Maybe, but that is almost certainly not true. Cops are not magically perfect beings.
If they are not all justified, it means there is a non-zero number of unjustified cop killings.
And the percentage of unjustified cop killings that have gone unpunished is 100%.
I can't tell if this is trolling or not
Either way, the US has also had periods of police strikes (rare, but they have happened) where this dream has come to fruition. And no, it hasn't been more peaceful, orderly or safe than when they have been performing their normal duties. You may want to read about Boston's police strike of 1919 or Baltimore's strike of 1974. They led to looting in a manner that's similar to what's going on now, and also led (in the former) to the use of posse comitatus, who were harsher in dealing with crime and more trigger happy than the police.
Please provide evidence for this claim. Tahnks.
I don't think we can possibly know what would have Derek Chauvin done if George Floyd had been White or if he'd been there at all or if the prosecutors would have charged differently, but I do agree that either way it is a terrible crime indeed. And I think it will most definitely be punished accordingly, at least for manslaughter (and hopefully for third degree murder).
And yes, my comment about your "Marxism" stands: It's a great example of its decline.
Do you know of any white people in the USA who have been killed for possibly having a counterfeit bill?
I, as a white person, have had counterfeit bills that I (unknowingly) tried to use. The people involved simply looked at it, laughed, and pointed out to me how I really should have known.
I did not end up on the ground, pleading for my last breath.