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This is also why the riots are happening. Racial profiling. Illegal arrests... etc.



@blackjack21That's OK. I find you impossible to distinguish from all the other racists posters.
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Saeko wrote:Oh and, by the way, you're not a fascist. No fascist movement would have you as anything more than a bullet sponge.
you obviously wouldn't know what fascism is if it bit you in the ass! You have never read the doctrine of fascism, neither have you read any book written by Benito Mussolini or his wife Rachel. You're a big bundle of ignorance!
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Saeko wrote:You don't become a fascist by reading fucking books.

Well you can grow a little bit less ignorant about what fascism is if you picked up a book and read it. Fascism has nothing to do with racism. The founder of fascism favorite visitor was an Indian named Gandhi who spoke highly about him. The favorite author of the founder of fascism was an Indian Nobel Peace Prize winner named tagore. Mussolini invited him the fascist Italy, and he lost fans when he quote sang the Praises of Mussolini. Mussolini did everything he could to stay out of that war. The only reason he sided with Adolf Hitler was because he wanted to start an anti- Bolshevik anti-communist block and he didn't know about the death camps. He was no more a friend of Hitler than Winston Churchill was a friend of his ally Joseph Stalin. He knew he had to enter the war, because Hitler was threatening to invade Italy. He thought he was entering the winning side and the most anti-communist side. Before you talk about fascism, get your facts straight! Also, before supporting the leftists, how about be honest about your support of black genocide.
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Spider-Man wrote:Well you can grow a little bit less ignorant about what fascism is if you picked up a book and read it. Fascism has nothing to do with racism. The founder of fascism favorite visitor was an Indian named Gandhi who spoke highly about him. The favorite author of the founder of fascism was an Indian Nobel Peace Prize winner named tagore. Mussolini invited him the fascist Italy, and he lost fans when he quote sang the Praises of Mussolini. Mussolini did everything he could to stay out of that war. The only reason he sided with Adolf Hitler was because he wanted to start an anti- Bolshevik anti-communist block and he didn't know about the death camps. He was no more a friend of Hitler than Winston Churchill was a friend of his ally Joseph Stalin. He knew he had to enter the war, because Hitler was threatening to invade Italy. He thought he was entering the winning side and the most anti-communist side. Before you talk about fascism, get your facts straight! Also, before supporting the leftists, how about be honest about your support of black genocide.


I am a fascist, and as far as I know the only fascist left on this forum. You are not and never will be one. No true fascist would EVER entertain the notion of going to war against his own countrymen. You do not understand this. And you never will. You are a pawn.
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They will have to make the jury watch that entire video and focus on the fact that the knee on the neck was unnecessary. With Fentanyl in his system, they will be claiming they didn't know he was on a depressant and that his illegal drug use contributed to his death (which it probably did, but it still doesn't justify Chauvin's actions).


It is obvious from the video that Floyd was intoxicated. I was thinking alcohol, but I guess fentanyl makes sense. They cannot get away with pleading ignorance in that regard.
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Saeko wrote:I am a fascist, and as far as I know the only fascist left on this forum. You are not and never will be one. No true fascist would EVER entertain the notion of going to war against his own countrymen. You do not understand this. And you never will. You are a pawn.

I'm one of the few people who actually know what a fascist is. And no, I've not entertained the notion of going to war against any countrymen, but Communists do not count. The errors of Communism should be uprooted and they have made their way into American government. They flock to the Democratic party
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Spider-Man wrote:I'm one of the few people who actually know what a fascist is. And no, I've not entertained the notion of going to war against any countrymen, but Communists do not count. The errors of Communism should be uprooted and they have made their when into American government. They flock to the Democratic party


Your first thread on this forum was about how you, due to your total and utter lack of self-control, got yourself beat up because you went on a tirade against one of your own countrymen because of the color of his skin. You're a disgrace. Learn to shut your mouth.
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Saeko wrote:Your first thread on this forum was about how you, due to your total and utter lack of self-control, got yourself beat up because you went on a tirade against one of your own countrymen because of the color of his skin. You're a disgrace. Learn to shut your mouth.
I did no such thing. You're delusional
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blackjack21 wrote:Uh, I told you Trump was going to be significant in 2015, because he was the only one to address illegal immigration and trade. That's still the case, and that's why he's still likely to win.


Do you even think before you post something? This is not a a nursing home full of demented old guys with brief memory span. The only immigration that he has impacted has been the legal kind when he prevented countless of people with valid visas to enter the country.
Do you remember when he had a tantrum like the child he is and closed the government because he did not get what he wanted (btw, at a time when the republicans had control of BOTH chambers of congress AND the presidency) and then after the longest shutdown of history when he started panicking because of the stock market's reaction crumbled under the pressure of Nancy Pelosi?
Do you remember when he abused his command of the military (something that apparently he has no trouble doing and is threatening to continue doing, not unlike a fucking dictator...) to build a wall, which EXPLICITLY was not authorized by congress? So how much wall have you gotten? Oh thats right... not much at all, just a bit of replacement of previously existing parts... He had a fucking tantrum so he could take advantage of his stupid racists's supporters rage, still managed to lose the midterms, still failed to force congress to do his wishes and still has not build shit for wall. It is all a rouse, I know you don't care, most of his supporters probably don't even give a fuck about the wall... they probably just want to "piss off liberals" more than anything. Grow up children, this is a matter of life and death, not a fucking kindergarten disagreement. Stop allowing this lunatic to manipulate you for his gain. After all the fucking scandals that have gone through, we can infer whatever is in his taxes is far worse than all the shit that we already know he has done, and all that shit would have been enough to put anyone else in jail for many many years. It is gonna be fun when he loses the court battle for his taxes and shortly after his taxes "leak" from the congressional investigation by "accident" :lol:

I find it amazing that people think that they can effect change without actually changing who they vote for. It's mystifying.

What we need is election reform. We need to get rid of all of these lifetime senators, representatives, judges, and shit. Term limits. They all enter young, full of reasonable ideas and after 3 decades in congress they are all corrupt. All they do is filibuster this, block that, cry this, and endless nonsense.
Look at fucking mitch mconell, the guy has become a millionaire while in congress, spend more time trying to get money than trying to get shit done for this country, meanwhile, Kentucky keeps getting shittier and shittier by the minute. And listen, democrats are not innocent either. There need to be limits for all of them.
Americans need to start thinking about electing younger presidents before they all get corrupted by this shit.
He's talking about voters, not politicians. Rioters just burned down a police precint in a Democratic city. That suggests that they aren't too happy.

Oh shit, I wonder why...
They had to buy off challengers to give the nomination to Biden to avoid a brokered convention. One thing is for sure, a lot of Bernie voters are not going to come in to the fold.

Right... you have spent hours upon hours trying to convince everyone that most people in america are not what you call "far left" and then you accuse the democratic party of doing some kind of behind-the-scenes manipulation to choose a moderate candidate even though your own model of what this country is and wants contradicts the need to "rig" this shit in favor of Biden....
Your own statements are contradictory. Of course, we can see right through, what people like you want to do is convince the Bernie supporters that he was treated unfarily so that you can manipulate them into casting a "vote of protest" by either not voting or doing so for the opposition. That was a good tactic last time around, it probably had an impact for the previous election. It is unlikely that people will fall for the same shit.

Yes, but the biggest problems in both cases are in Democrat areas, not Republican areas.

LOL
It is not like farmers and people living in rural are also in deep anguish now right? They might not protest as loud but after so many useless trade wars, COVID pandemic (as a result of shit inaction by a shit president) and the aftermath of the current protests... I would not be so sure if they will continue to be as many staunch supporters as they have been so far.
Tell me, other than thousand of farmers economically squeezed and needing a bailout, what advantage has the US achieved with all the stupid trade wars? Tell me so I know why we ended up sacrificing those people's business and taxpayer's money.

Joe Biden represents free trade with China, open borders, plenty of corruption, etc.

Nonsense
People who voted for Trump have not changed their minds on those issues.

We will see about that.
Do you think blacks rioting is going to make them say, "Gee! Maybe I should vote for Joe Biden and open borders and free trade while there are 40M people unemployed!" I don't think that's going to happen.

No, according to you they are just going to say.. Listen, this guy lied, stole, colluded with foreign countries, abused his power, already got impeached, failed to react misserably to a global pandemic making our country the laughingstock of the world (and killing americans) and now he is threatening to use the military to hide away the pain of american citizen.... this guy is the guy I want to rule for the next 4 more years :lol: .
I don't think in the years since the creation of this country, there have been as much society unrrest and pain as there is now. Between the deaths and economic ruins of people... if you want to keep risking our existence of this moron... well that is a big dangerous gamble. We know the Biden brand, we have had it before. It is not great but we know it is not poison. The Trump brand is poison and we are starting to see the effects. Keep gambling, the US is the country with the most... that means we can lose "bigly" to use a word from our beautiful orange potato.
He's a sacrificial pawn in the larger scheme of things.

You talk as if this guy was a victim. This is despicable.
He would just go to minds.com, gab, etc. That wouldn't kill Trump. It would kill Twitter.

LOL.
What makes you think police don't have military grade weapons? Ever hear of SWAT?

I think you misunderstood him. He said police SHOULDN'T have access to this.

They will have to make the jury watch that entire video and focus on the fact that the knee on the neck was unnecessary. With Fentanyl in his system, they will be claiming they didn't know he was on a depressant and that his illegal drug use contributed to his death (which it probably did, but it still doesn't justify Chauvin's actions).

Fentanyl did not. DID NOT contribute to this death. Full stop. A fucking medical student can tell you that.
It's the urban Democratic party machine. They take care of their own. It's pretty much organized crime, and a heavy, heavy dose of virtue signalling that fools so many people. Ted Kennedy killed Mary Jo Kopechne and was never charged. Everybody knows it. Joe Biden digitally raped Tara Reade. She kept it quiet for years and never pressed charges. It's a pay to play gig. Good paying government jobs, pensions, etc.

Fuckoff you and your conspiracies. This shit happens in republican controlled police stations as well. And if you really want to talk about real rape and real sexual assault there is NO FUCKING WAY IN HELL that you can suggest that republicans have any degree of moral ground in this topic.
Between Roy Moore and Donald trump you have enough sexual assault/harassment to eclipse whatever the random democrat scandal. You guys elect criminals and sexual predators for office, the democratic party shames out of office people like Al Franken whose misconduct does not even come a mile from that shit Trump has admitted himself of doing. So seriously, once you get rid of the mega-corrupted assholes in your side, then you can offer some criticism. Prior to that, your concerns can go directly to the concern bin:
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Yes, but lawyers and expert witnesses and an intimidated jury play a role too. That's why I say this stuff has to be done carefully. Chavin gets a jury of his peers, not Floyds.

Stop being concerned about something that is not relevant right now and won't be for the long term. And frankly, something that shouldn't be an issue regardless, at any point, on any jury.
Yes, and it works. The cops can get on the stand and start crying and say they didn't mean to kill him and they didn't know he was a speed baller.

It is disgusting when people start making shit excuses.
He could have been Hitler for all that it matters. 2 wrongs do not make a right.

This is why you don't overcharge, though. Hell, even Rush Limbaugh said today that these guys should be charged with first degree murder. He comes from a family of lawyers. He should know straight away that they would probably walk on such charges.

That is bullshit. You can charge as many charges as you think you have evidence for, then you can remove and/or add others and the jury can decide which ones they will find him guilty of if any.
These cops will practice crying on cue, while expert witnesses will talk about all the famous people who have died speed balling and the danger of fentanyl and methamphetamine interactions.

Yeah, you seem so very well concerned for justice... You are such an angel :p
We really won't know until election day, and I'd still bet on Trump. Look at Biden. Good god!

I wouldn't call Biden a god :lol:
You have to be pretty clever to win the White House.

No. You just have to have an army of people that get deceived easily.

It is pretty balsy of you, that with all the shit that has occurred so far and continues to occur you continue to have confidence in this con artist.
How many unprecedented shit has happened in the last 3.5 years. How many once in a century, once in a lifetime, once in a decade, NEVER BEFORE shit do you need to open your eyes?
Tell me a number so that when we reach that number I can come back and talk to you...
Just in 5 seconds:
Unemployment in the tens of millions
Impeachment
Cohesion of government to interfere in our elections
Goverment shutdowns, tantrums that he ended up caving anyway
Trade wars
Escalations of tensions that directly lead to Iran blowing a plane full of innocent people.
Hundreds of thousands of deaths, millions of infected by a pandemic that had the SHITTIEST response of any government. E. Even fucking china did better than we did and this is an embarrassment.
Our cities burning
Our "leader" cowering in a bunker and then threatening to use the fking military against US citizens
Tell me? How many more? Will you admit you were wrong when? When we get a civil war? when our economy completely collapses and you get hungry people in the street? When we go to war with China or North Korea? Just tell me what will make you change your mind, so I don't waste my fucking time.
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Wulfschilde wrote:would presumably not have died from it.

Wrong!

Multiple cases of in-custody death by positional asphyxia have been associated with the prone restraint position. So many that the DoJ felt it necessary to publish advice warning law enforcement of the dangers in using this form of restraint.
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At the end of this stream, people are hiding protestors in their homes from the police. This is some Nazi-Germany type shit:



This is what protesting peacefully gets you in Trump's America:



From Reddit:

Found while lurking on the C-SPAM subforum of SomethingAwful, by a poster named Ice Phisherman. Figured to bring it out of the echo chamber and see how it'd be taken here.

I am a real god damn political scientist and sociologist and I am not sure if there will be an election. And if there is an election and either of the current candidates win, neither will have legitimacy. We're establishing a riot culture right now and people are seeing that violence works and destroying shit works and fighting the cops works. The government gave us decades of rhetoric about peaceful protest and then they mouthed their meaningless words and people would come out in droves and feel like they accomplished something and nothing happened. Or they understood that nothing would happen, but came out anyway to try and radicalize people by making connections or they came out to throw bottles at cops.

Trump and Biden only give a shit about old people and there is a violent youth culture that is rapidly hardening right now. Unless they are brought into the fold and represented, and I mean actually represented, not this bullshit representation from the top I hear you shit that you get from both parties, and that's if they even pretend, then you can kiss the existing government goodbye. Like we all worry about RBG kicking the bucket and what that means and hand wringing. Nah dude, people don't like a law? They get out and they fuck shit up. No cutesy pussy hats anymore. That was for peaceful times when 25% of the American population wasn't at risk of going homeless and starving. People waited for help and government told the devil to take the hindmost. And the hindmost said fuck that. They're out there and they make themselves heard and they throw back any law they don't like because laws are agreements and people are no longer agreeing to shit unless they actually support it. We might still have a United States after this, but it will be very different. I have no idea in what way. Shit could get way, way worse. Someone could save the day with democratic socialism or shit, actual socialism. We could balkanize. But the status quo is finished. It will take time to do, but it is currently in its death throes.

Almost all leadership has flung up their hands, have no idea what to do or are actively working against the protesters who they are supposedly sworn to protect. Capitalism has hollowed out our democracy. Normally a military response, which is to say a fascist response, would follow widespread riots. But no one can actually hammer on the button because this will outrage people and make the problem worse. But they're doing it anyway, because they don't want to provide for everyone's needs because doing so will be socialism and no one in government save for Sanders and people like him actually want to do that because if you admit that it's possible and make it possible, capitalism collapses without starvation and homelessness to be the whip that they crack on you.

And this isn't some red versus blue bullshit where you fight over a small number of swing voters and previously niche ideals. This is live or die "I need to eat and have a home" shit. So you have drug in the poor and the disenfranchised into the mix. The declassed lumpenproletariat are fighting for their survival with the left wingers and the libs. But the poor understand understand very clearly that this is do or die for them because no more help is forthcoming. Some, not all, but some of them got 1200 dollars from the government and that's fucking it. Maybe they get WIC, maybe they get food on the first, maybe they get disability, but a lot of Americans don't and it's been communicated to them that a lot of those programs they rely on are going to go away. And the very poorest? They were never included in the 1200 fund. Tens of millions of the poorest people never got relief at all.

Normal electoral politics are over because the current system cannot produce leaders that either A, represent the American people or B, crack down hard enough to silence dissent. Mind you, I'm not for cracking down on dissent, obviously, but a government can and if you look at history, frequently does do this to preserve itself. Not a value statement, a fact. Inability to provide and inability to silence dissent means paralysis and hesitation and that's how governments die.

If electoralism survives, it will make sure to represent the interests of their constituents. Because if it doesn't, those people will march out and protest and with some provocation they will loot and burn shit down. That's the narrative that's being established. That's how it's going to be. And unless that changes really fucking quick, we're going to permanently establish a French style protest culture and maybe even more extreme than that. Because we're Americans. We do everything big.

The protest vote is no longer throwing your vote to the greens or the libertarians. It's not voting for the other guy. It's no longer staying home. Hell, you don't even need to be registered to vote. The protest vote is now the riot. And if you can get enough rioters, that's your vote. No more voting with your feet. People will be voting with their fists. Passivity is over.

Biden is the same as Trump. Not in terms of politics, though they're honestly pretty damn close. No, what I mean is that neither will have legitimacy, neither will be respected and both will be rebelled against. And that's if they have an election. If they drag out his half-corpse out of whatever bunker he's in to be the next American president then people will see him as no different as Trump and will rebel because Biden is out of touch not only in character, but he's in sharp mental decline. And that's if shit hasn't collapsed in the meantime.

The primary process failed to produce a leader that would drag us out of this crisis. That leader was Bernie Sanders and the process was democratic socialism. Tried and true, it saved democracy and also capitalism. And maybe, just maybe, we would have gotten actual socialism out of it. The dems kneecapped themselves. They decided to take corporate money instead of renewing the social contract between the government and the people. And that's what got some people out and always gets some people out. But with the poor out there now and they are going to get rapidly radicalized by the left because it's the leftists who are speaking their language of supplying the basic necessities to every person and they understand how to run a fucking riot and understand it well.

The parties are done. Both of them. And there is no clear, legitimate successor that people will accept who will continue electoral politics. The police are going to lose. The national guard is going to lose. The military is going to lose. And they're going to lose because they brought bullets instead of sandwiches.
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