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By Beren
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Unthinking Majority wrote:Wouldn't the anti-Christ be burning down churches? Not ordering the removal of people setting fire to a church?

He's anti-Christ in the sense at least that he's the opposite of Christ as a person, I also wonder whether who burnt down churches and why or for what reason, actually. One should be very careful with making judgements here.

Unthinking Majority wrote:He held the Bible upside down not because he's Satan, but because he's clumsy and dumb.

Do you really believe he's that much clumsy and dumb? He was also too much keen on doing that photo op.
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Prosthetic Conscience wrote:You're doing fine until that last sentence. On the day and in the area that Trump had the streets cleared, it was a peaceful protest - no riots. They weren't damaging buildings, historic or otherwise. That had happened the day before. There's no reason to think the people who turned up in daylight on Monday were the people who set the basement on fire on Sunday evening.


I suppose. Much of the damage seems to be caused during the evening, under cover of darkness, which is why many of the rioters where black clothing.
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Beren wrote:He's anti-Christ in the sense at least that he's the opposite of Christ as a person, I also wonder whether who burnt down churches and why or for what reason, actually. One should be very careful with making judgements here.


Yes Trump has an ideology that is the antithesis of Christ's ideology.

If you've read Nietzsche, Trump follows "master morality", while Christianity is "slave morality". In fact, Nietzsche wrote a book called "The Antichrist", and also proclaimed that "God was dead".

https://bigthink.com/scotty-hendricks/t ... ally-meant

Hitler took "master morality" to its most extreme ends. Hitler is very literally the anti-Christ.
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By Hindsite
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Beren wrote:I'm not really into Nietzsche, but I think he's been misunderstood by many.

I am into the Trump of God and believe he has been misunderstood by many.
President Trump has said that he went down to that bunker during the day, not at night, just to inspect it and it only took a few minutes.

Trump says he went to White House bunker for 'inspection,' hits back at criticism of church visit

The president explained he had only ever visited the bunker two or three times and "all for inspection" because "someday [he] may need it."

"And, I read about it like [it was] a big thing. There was never a problem. We never had a problem. Nobody ever came close to giving us a problem," he assured.

He told Kilmeade that while the Secret Service did not escort him anywhere for his safety, they said it "would be a good time to go down [and] take a look."
https://www.foxnews.com/media/trump-bun ... h-tear-gas
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By jimjam
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Hindsite wrote:I am into the Trump of God and believe he has been misunderstood by many.
President Trump has said that he went down to that bunker during the day, not at night, just to inspect it and it only took a few minutes.

Trump says he went to White House bunker for 'inspection,' hits back at criticism of church visit

The president explained he had only ever visited the bunker two or three times and "all for inspection" because "someday [he] may need it."

"And, I read about it like [it was] a big thing. There was never a problem. We never had a problem. Nobody ever came close to giving us a problem," he assured.

He told Kilmeade that while the Secret Service did not escort him anywhere for his safety, they said it "would be a good time to go down [and] take a look."
https://www.foxnews.com/media/trump-bun ... h-tear-gas


Bunker Bitch is a fake tough guy. He's a weak, frightened, insecure excuse for a leader who is trying to live vicariously through the armed forces he was too gutless to join. No, military in the streets is not what this country needs. We need a president who’s an adult, not a child king in a soiled diaper hiding in a bunker.
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By Hindsite
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Beren wrote:In this case I have to tell you this shit ain't good for him, his (dis)approval ratings haven't been so bad for 6 months.

All I care about is his approval rating with me. That is very high.
Praise the Lord.
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@Hindsite go and worship that Satan ENJOY...

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Trump should receive the leaders of BLM at the White House and patiently listen to them. Then he should enact their reforms.

Trump should embrace the struggle against systemic racism.
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By Hindsite
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Political Interest wrote:Trump should receive the leaders of BLM at the White House and patiently listen to them. Then he should enact their reforms.

Trump should embrace the struggle against systemic racism.

BLM will not go to the White House and meet with President Trump because they hate him just the same as many on this forum do. Anyway their reforms are stupid and they speak lies and hate. Trump has already stood up against racism for all, not just for black and brown people. But rioting and looting the Democrat cities in the nation will not help. That just makes things worse for everyone. Why didn't the American news media let us know that George Floyd was an ex-convict in every report so we had context into what those cops were dealing with?
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By Donna
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Political Interest wrote:Trump should receive the leaders of BLM at the White House and patiently listen to them. Then he should enact their reforms.

Trump should embrace the struggle against systemic racism.


lol sweet naive PI, don't ever change.
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In further irony, Trump's extended cordon around his bunker has now blocked the Episcopalian bishop from going to St. John's Church:

On Monday, President Donald Trump tear-gassed an assembly of peaceful demonstrators just outside the White House so he could awkwardly struggle to hold a bible during a photo op in front of St. John’s Episcopal Church.

On Wednesday, Trump-authorized federal police closed off a portion of 16th Street just north of the church, about a block from the White House, which kept clergy from being able to use their house of worship.

Bishop Mariann Budde, who had assailed Trump’s Monday visit as a “symbolic misuse of the most sacred texts of our tradition,” planned to hold a vigil in front of the church to to show solidarity with protestors. But a new security perimeter, extending almost a quarter of a mile out from the front of the White House, blocked her access and forced her into the street. A crowd still gathered, but away from its envisioned location and with it being difficult for most of the crowd to see or hear, the event lost momentum.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/20 ... s-blocked/

Trump is doing wonders for freedom of worship, eh?
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By Hindsite
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Prosthetic Conscience wrote:In further irony, Trump's extended cordon around his bunker has now blocked the Episcopalian bishop from going to St. John's Church:


Trump is doing wonders for freedom of worship, eh?

That was Fake news. There was no tear gas used. After several times calling out for the crowd to move and they refused, then smoke canisters and pepper balls were used in moving the crowd of protesters. Those protesters were not there to worship, they were preventing people from going to that church to worship by blocking the way.
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By Hindsite
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Protesters converge on White House for second straight day
May 31, 2020

Police fired pepper spray at demonstrators near the White House and the D.C. National Guard was called in as pockets of violence and vandalism erupted during a second straight night of protests over the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis and President Donald Trump’s response to it.

Hundreds of people converged on the White House and marched along the National Mall, chanting “Black Lives Matter,” “I can’t breathe” and “No justice, no peace.”

Protesters threw water bottles, traffic cones, scooters, even tear gas cans at police lines. They set fire to a car and a trash bin and smashed windows, including at Bay Atlantic University. “What are you doing? That’s a school,” one man yelled.

An American flag hanging at the Export-Import Bank was taken down, burned and replaced with a Black Lives Matter banner.

The D.C. demonstration was one of several around the country responding to the death of Floyd, a black man who died in police custody.

Trump appeared to cheer on the tougher tactics being used by law enforcement to disperse protesters Saturday night. He commended National Guard troops deployed in Minneapolis, declaring “No games!” and he also said police in New York City “must be allowed to do their job!”

“Let New York’s Finest be New York’s Finest,” Trump said on Twitter after returning to the White House from Florida, where he watched the launch of a SpaceX rocket. He did not talk to reporters upon his return and it was not clear if he could hear the protest over the sound of his helicopter. But for at least part of the flight, televisions on Air Force One were turned to Fox News and its coverage of the protests.

Earlier in the day, he had belittled the protesters and pledged to “stop mob violence.”

“I stand before you as a friend and ally to every American seeking justice and peace, and I stand before you in firm opposition to anyone exploiting this tragedy to loot, rob, attack and menace,” the president said after watching the launch of a SpaceX rocket. “Healing, not hatred, justice, not chaos, are the missions at hand.”

Police were in tactical gear. The D.C. National Guard was activated at the direction of the secretary of the Army and at the request of the Park Police to help maintain order near the White House, Commanding Gen. William J. Walker said in a post on the Guard’s Facebook page.

While some protesters stayed near the White House, others marched through the streets chanting, “No justice and no peace.” and “Say his name: George Floyd.” The mood was angry and several speakers implored marchers to remain peaceful.

The march paused between the the Washington Monument and the National Museum of African American History and Culture. Demonstrators sat down in the street for a moment of silence lasting for the eight minutes or more that the Minneapolis police officer reportedly knelt on Floyd’s neck.

At the Lincoln Memorial, one organizer spoke over a megaphone. “Look to the left and to the right and thank that person. We can’t hug anybody because of COVID, but I love you anyway.” Many of the protesters wore masks, but did not socially distance themselves.

Another group circled through the Capitol Hill neighborhood for at least an hour in cars, honking. A helicopter hovered overhead.

In a series of tweets earlier Saturday, Trump doubted protesters’ allegiance to Floyd’s memory, saying they were “professionally managed.” He offered no evidence to back his assertion, and the president even seemed to invite supporters to make their presence felt: “Tonight, I understand, is MAGA NIGHT AT THE WHITE HOUSE???”

Trump later rejected the suggestion that he was stoking a potential conflict between protesters and his supporters. “I was just asking. But I have no idea if they are going to be here,” he said. “MAGA is Make America Great Again. By the way, they love African American people. They love black people.”

At Saturday’s demonstration, there was no evidence of a counter-move by Trump supporters.

Trump said he had “watched every move” from inside the executive mansion during Friday’s protest and “couldn’t have felt more safe” as the Secret Service let the protesters carry on, “but whenever someone … got too frisky or out of line, they would quickly come down on then, hard — didn’t know what hit them.”

The president also criticized the mayors of Washington and Minneapolis.

Trump said Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey “is probably a very good person, but he’s a radical, left mayor.” He then described how he watched as a police station in the city was overrun. “For that police station to be abandoned and taken over, I’ve never seen anything so horrible and stupid in my life,” Trump said when speaking briefly to reporters at the White House.

He said Minnesota officials have to get tougher with rioters, and that by doing so they would be honoring the memory of Floyd.

The Secret Service said in a statement Saturday that six protesters were arrested in Washington and “multiple” officers were injured. There were no details on the charges or nature of the injuries. A spokesman for U.S. Park Police said their officers made no arrests, but several suffered minor injuries and one was taken to a hospital after being struck in the helmet by a projectile.

Acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf on Saturday called the protesters “criminals” who committed “acts of violence while hiding behind their First Amendment right of lawful protest.”

Late Saturday and early Sunday, protesters vented their rage by breaking into tony shops of Georgetown, on the western edge of the District, and in downtown Washington, breaking windows and glass doors of many stores and looting some of them.

https://wtop.com/government/2020/05/cro ... ite-house/
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By jimjam
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Hindsite wrote:Those protesters were not there to worship, they were preventing people from going to that church to worship by blocking the way.


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Clear da way! Clear da way! Don The Con is coming to "worship"! Don The Con is coming to "worship"!

(This is an actual photo of Don The Con's praetorian guard clearing the way so that His Highness can "worship" Hallelujah? :lol: )
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By Hindsite
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jimjam wrote:Image

Clear da way! Clear da way! Don The Con is coming to "worship"! Don The Con is coming to "worship"!

(This is an actual photo of Don The Con's praetorian guard clearing the way so that His Highness can "worship" Hallelujah? :lol: )

You put so much false stuff on here that I don't believe it.
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By jimjam
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Protestors peacefully protest minutes before riot police cleared them away for a photo opportunity by Donald Trump. Photograph: Reuters

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Protestors run as riot police fire teargas to clear Lafayette Park for Donald Trump to be able to walk through for a photo opportunity. Photograph: Reuters

Protesters demonstrating over the killing of George Floyd in police custody in Minneapolis were gassed, shot with rubber bullets and forcefully cleared on Barr’s orders so Trump could walk to St John’s church, the so-called Church of the Presidents, and hold up a Bible in a photo op meant to reassure evangelical supporters.

Trump and supporters have claimed protesters in Lafayette Square, in front of the White House, and near St John’s church were not teargassed. But as an Associated Press factcheck points out, “the US Park Police denied using teargas, yet acknowledged deploying a pepper compound, which the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and other scientific organizations list as one form of teargas”.

Senior figures including the former defense secretary and marine corps general James Mattis, the former JCOS chair admiral Mike Mullen and the former marine corps general John Allen, a former US commander against Isis and in Afghanistan, have expressed their disgust with both the stunt and the military’s participation in it.
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By Hindsite
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Christiant Leaders Loved Trump’s Bible Photo Op

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“I thought it was completely appropriate for the president to stand in front of that church,” said Robert Jeffress, a Dallas megachurch pastor. “And by holding up the Bible, he was showing us that it teaches that, yes, God hates racism, it’s despicable—but God also hates lawlessness …”


“I will never forget seeing Trump slowly & in-total-command walk … across Lafayette Square to St. John’s Church defying those who aim to derail our national healing by spreading fear, hate & anarchy,” wrote Johnnie Moore, the president of the Congress of Christian Leaders.

Ralph Reed, the chairman of the Faith and Freedom Coalition, heaped praise on Trump for his visit: “His presence sent the twin message that our streets and cities do not belong to rioters and domestic terrorists, and that the ultimate answer to what ails our country can be found in the repentance, redemption, and forgiveness of the Christian faith.”

So when Donald Trump holds up a Bible in front of a fire-damaged church, his most fervent religious followers don’t see a statement of personal faith or a mere pander, but rather an assertion that he will impose godly order on a disordered country.


President Trump walks across Lafayette Park to St. John's Church

ellyanne Conway shuts down criticism of Trump's church photo-opcountry.
Jun 2, 2020
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