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SpecialOlympian wrote:The President of the United States of America, who is the biggest bitch in the world, is withdrawing troops because he is not in charge (because he is a giant bitch).


No Trump's an arrogant asshole. Hillary Clinton is technically the biggest bitch in the world, on account of her vagina.

Trump is what happens when you have massive balls but a tiny dick.
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There's a NYT video that you might find useful as it shows the clerks:


Thanks for posting that video @wat0n. Broadest definition of the word ‘clerk’ , but that’s America I guess :hmm:

Does anyone have any ideas as to the role these convenience stores, (which seem to have outgrown their original purpose) have on a community? Are they just helping segregate people into post codes? Or are they playing a role as middleman for government agencies and not equipped?

This story got so much sadder when I saw those kids appear from the store. They clearly aren’t scared of him, they went right up to the car. And that black youth, he doesn’t look comfortable does he. Fuck me...so sad.
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ness31 wrote:Thanks for posting that video @wat0n. Broadest definition of the word ‘clerk’ , but that’s America I guess :hmm:


English isn't my first language so maybe there could be a better word - store owners came to mind to me at the beginning, but that would presuppose they own the property and I don't think I've seen that stated anywhere :)
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wat0n wrote:English isn't my first language so maybe there could be a better word - store owners came to mind to me at the beginning, but that would presuppose they own the property and I don't think I've seen that stated anywhere :)



Gosh no, you’re fine. Your English is great. I mean, the fact that in the US they call itinerant children working for pocket money ‘clerks’ is weird. :D
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A lot more cops need a fucking beating. I can see this getting to the point where Americans start shooting and attacking cops. There is too much brutality and they use their numbers, authority and violence to injure people who are no threat to them.

1312, America.

Don't allow your country to become a Totalitarian State, and tyranny.

Stop the violence. Keep the police in the police stations, away from peaceful protesters.
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ness31 wrote:What’s the 1312 thing mean?


It's code for the letters of the alphabet which those numbers represent.

ACAB.

All Cops Are Bastards.

Censors crack down on ACAB as an Antifa or general anti-police slogan, so they've switched to the coded numbers instead.

Kinda like how 666 = (Fuck) Caesar Nero in Hebrew Gematria in the book of Revelations.

The original "secret fuck the authorities" numerical code, although @Hindsite totally is going to ignore that fact and Ignore the fact his religion was founded by virulenly anti-establishment Jews.

1312 is similar.
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colliric wrote:It's code for the letters of the alphabet which those numbers represent.

ACAB.

All Cops Are Bastards.

Censors crack down on ACAB as an Antifa or general anti-police slogan, so they've switched to the coded numbers instead.

Kinda like how 666 = (Fuck) Caesar Nero in Hebrew Gematria in the book of Revelations.

The original "secret fuck the authorities" numerical code, although @Hindsite totally is going to ignore that fact and Ignore the fact his religion was founded by virulenly anti-establishment Jews.

1312 is similar.


Really? Is that it? I thought it was going to be something way cooler.

It doesn’t sound very American. Way too polite to be American lol.
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2 ex-cops charged in Floyd's death were rookies

Two of three Minneapolis police officers accused of aiding and abetting in the death of George Floyd were rookies barely off probation when a more senior white officer ignored the black man's cries for help and pressed a knee into his neck, defense attorneys said Thursday.

Earl Gray said his client, former Officer Thomas Lane, had no choice but to follow the instructions of Derek Chauvin, who has since been charged with second-degree murder in Floyd's May 25 death. Gray called the case against his client “extremely weak.”

On Wednesday, the three other officers were charged with aiding and abetting second-degree murder. If convicted, they potentially face the same penalty as Chauvin: up to 40 years in prison. Gray said Thursday that all Lane did was hold Floyd’s feet so he couldn't kick, and he underlined that the criminal complaint says Lane asked Chauvin twice if they should roll Floyd over and expressed concern that Floyd might be in delirium. He said Lane performed CPR in the ambulance.

“What was my client supposed to do but follow what his training officer said? Is that aiding and abetting a crime?” Gray asked.

Cop in Floyd case got medals for valor and drew complaints

The Minneapolis police officer who used his knee to pin down George Floyd’s neck before his death was the most experienced of the four officers involved in the arrest, with a record that included medals for bravery and 17 complaints against him, including one for pulling a woman out of her car during a speeding stop.

New details about Derek Chauvin and the other now-fired officers emerged Wednesday after prosecutors upgraded Chauvin’s charge to second-degree murder and charged the others with aiding and abetting in a case that has convulsed the nation with protests over race and police brutality.

Heavily redacted personnel files show that Chauvin, a 19-year veteran of the force, was initially trained as a cook and served in the Army as a military police officer. Eleven-year veteran and native Hmong speaker Tou Thao began as a community service officer and was the subject of six complaints. The other two officers were relative newcomers to the department, including Thomas Lane, a former juvenile detention guard who did volunteer work with Somali refugees, and J. Alexander Kueng, who got his start in law enforcement by patrolling his college campus and a department store.

The files were notable for what they didn’t include. Only one of the 17 complaints against Chauvin was detailed, none of the six against Thao were mentioned and there was no further detail about a 2017 excessive force lawsuit against Thao.

Records show that the 44-year-old Chauvin initially studied cooking before taking courses in law enforcement and doing two stints in the Army as a military police officer in the late 1990s, serving at Fort Benning, Georgia, and in Germany.

Chauvin became a Minneapolis police officer in 2001 and the lone reprimand in his file involved a 2007 incident when he was accused of pulling a woman out of her car after stopping her for going 10 mph (16 kph) over the speed limit. Investigators found it was not necessary for Chauvin to remove the woman from the car and noted that his squad car video was turned off during the stop.

But Chauvin was also singled out for bravery. Files show he won two medals of valor, one in 2006 for being part of a group of officers who opened fire on a stabbing suspect who pointed a shotgun at them, and another in 2008 for a domestic violence incident in which Chauvin broke down a bathroom door and shot a suspect in the stomach.

He also won medals of commendation in 2008 after he and his partner tackled a fleeing suspect who had a pistol in his hand, and in 2009 for single-handedly apprehending a group of gang members while working as an off-duty security guard at the El Nuevo Rodeo, a Minneapolis nightclub.

Since his arrest, the former owner of the club, Maya Santamaria, said Chauvin and Floyd both worked there as security guards at various times but that she wasn’t sure if they had known one another. She said Chauvin was unnecessarily aggressive on nights when the club had a black clientele, quelling fights by dousing the crowd with pepper spray and calling in several police squad cars as backup, a tactic she called “overkill.”

Chauvin’s wife, Kellie, a Laotian immigrant who became the first Hmong winner of the Mrs. Minnesota pageant, filed for divorce shortly after his arrest last week. Before news of the upgraded charges, a lawyer for Chauvin said he was not making any statements. Kueng’s lawyer said his client turned himself in. Lane's lawyer said he hadn’t seen the complaint or talked to his client. Thao’s lawyer didn't return calls.

Cellphone video of Floyd's May 25 arrest showed Chauvin placing his left knee on Floyd’s neck with Lane holding Floyd’s legs and Kueng holding his back while Thao stood between the officers and onlookers, according to charging documents.

That’s when Floyd repeatedly cried out “I can’t breathe, “Mama” and “please.” At one point, he said “I’m about to die.” Nevertheless, Chauvin, Lane and Kueng didn’t move, according to the documents. Moments later, Lane asked: “should we roll him on his side?”

Chauvin replied: “No, staying put where we got him.” Lane said he was worried Floyd would experience excited delirium, a condition that can cause agitation, aggressiveness or sudden death, according to the complaint.

“That’s why we have him on his stomach,” Chauvin replied. Despite his concerns, Lane didn’t do anything to help Floyd or to reduce the force being used on him, the complaint said. Neither he, Kueng nor Chauvin moved.

Lane joined the police early last year as a 35-year-old cadet — much older than most rookies — and became a full-fledged officer last December. He had no complaints in his file during his short time on the force.

On employment forms, the University of Minnesota graduate said he had done volunteer work tutoring Somali youth and as a mentor helping at-risk elementary school students with reading and homework.” Kueng, at 26 the youngest of the four officers, was also a recent recruit to the police force. He completed his year’s probation just three months before the Floyd arrest. His personnel file, which notes that he speaks, reads and writes Russian, did not include any commendations or disciplinary actions during his short time on the force.

Kueng was a 2018 graduate of the University of Minnesota, where he worked part-time as part of the campus security force. He also worked nearly three years as a theft-prevention officer at Macy’s. Thao, 34, joined the police force part-time in 2008 while attending community college. Before that, he worked as a security guard, a supermarket stocker and trainer at McDonald’s.

City records show six complaints were filed against Thao, but there was no mention of that in the records released Wednesday. There also was no mention of a 2017 federal lawsuit accusing him and another officer of excessive force. According to the lawsuit, Lamar Ferguson claimed that in 2014, Thao and his partner stopped him and beat him up while he was on his way to his girlfriend’s house. The lawsuit was settled for $25,000.

https://www.pressherald.com/2020/06/03/ ... omplaints/
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@ness31 Canadians only riot for sporting events.


@Hindsite Irrelevant. Even if the rookie cop had merely suggested easing up on the pressure, it would be enough to demonstrate that they did something to prevent the incident. As it was, they stood by, idly, while a man was murdered.

Take your defense of racists, and your racist ass elsewhere, fake Christian.
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Donna wrote:No idea, I'd imagine just offering to give the fake bills back to him and refuse sale. I don't think George would have ran off with the goods in that situation, what may have happened is that the clerk told him the money was fake, that he needed to give the goods back and that they were going to keep the fake bill, and that probably escalated the entire situation. Or the clerk did all that and took the initiative of calling the police before George even knew what was going on. There's a lot of different ways racial bias can influence someone in that situation.


Racial bias could easily be eradicated by changing the NEGATIVE stereotype into a POSITIVE stereotype. Note how Asian Americans have no issues with the cops.
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