Julian658 wrote:The article is the typical BS of looking at outcome numbers (correlation) and assuming racism as the cause.
Actually the article isolates racism as a factor:
The key benchmark is that black workers comprise 23.3 percent of all employed workers in New York City over this time period, meaning that there is under-representation if a lower share is employed in a sector or occupation. Under-representation can occur because workers are not qualified (say, do not have as many college or advanced degrees) or because hiring practices are discriminatory. Examining the pattern among workers with similar education is a blunt way to control for qualifications.
Blacks certainly are under-represented in construction, they hold only 16.5 percent of jobs, far short of their 23.3 percent representation in the workforce. However, the under-representation is very severe in the nonunion sector, where blacks hold just 13.8 percent of the jobs while the under-representation in the union sector is much more modest—21.3 versus 23.3 percent. The degree of black under-representation in the two construction sectors, union and nonunion, is portrayed in the graph. Looking at specific education groups generally confirms the results. For construction employment overall, black under-representation seems more severe among those with a high school degree or less and not present at all for the group with at least some college education. Black workers clearly have a harder time finding employment in the nonunion sector than in the union sector, regardless of education. In fact, it appears that black workers with at least some college education have a greater share of work in the union construction sector. Black people are 13% of the population and yet they are over 80% of NBA basketball players and over 70% of NFL players. Whites are 65-70% of the population and are massively underrepresented in these two sports. Does that mean there is racism against whites in sports? Correlation is not causation, that is a very feeble weak argument Donna.
Black athletes are over-represented in those sports precisely because of the dynamics of racism. Both basketball and gridiron football are culturally embraced and heavily emphasized in black communities as potential routes to material success since the community lacks the traditional social mobility as whites. As a result more African-American males have an interest in athleticism and developing athletic skills in these sports.
Wealth is not finite. A capitalist can create wealth everyday out of nothing and they have the right to save the money they have made. If you and I make five dollars it does not mean we robbed the poor.
That depends how you made that five dollars, obviously.
I know the social safety net is a necessary evil.
Why is it evil? It's intended to prevent human beings from starving or becoming destitute. Why would you consider this to be a bad thing?
Otherwise, we have revolution and no one wants that. However, getting something for free destroys the human condition. I also realize that humans exist in a hierarchy of competence and the less talented ones are destined to the bottom. The left has a legit role in speaking for the poor. Imagine, if there were no poor or oppressed people the left would not have a reason to exist. The left needs a poor dependent population to exist.
I would gladly welcome a just society where it would no longer be necessary to be a leftist, but we have a long way to go still.
The blacks have been destroyed by these programs.
No, they haven't. If they've been "destroyed" it's because of slavery, Jim Crow, redlining, over-policing, systemic racism and racialized poverty. Programs that are designed to prevent children from starving are not the problem here.
They do not have the same intact family structure that creates children that achieve in school. The left had a fetish for calling a dog and a woman a family. They also believe fathers are not needed at home, just ask any feminist.
Nice strawman.
You may have a point there. In my case Keynesian or anti-Keynesian issues are moot, but some people need help. The left has tried to help the poor with artificial programs, but in the end we know it is always a band-aid.
That's not how we see them. These programs are incremental victories for the working class. There are an array of corporate interests that seek to eliminate social security. The left must always be prepared to defend the social safety net from those financial capitalist wreckers who have an agenda to dismantle it.
I am not an economist, so I will not say more. BUt, I still think on the average the Dems have done far more damage to blacks than the Republicans.
I just don't believe this is true. You can legitimately criticize the Clinton Dems for passing a racist crime bill, but the reality is that they passed the bill as part of a
right-wing triangulation within the Democratic Party. From a leftist point of view Bill Clinton is the most right-wing Democrat since Grover Cleveland to take the presidency.
Lastly, the Dems have convinced black people that ALL Republicans are racist.
This isn't really the fault of Dems but has more to do with the fact that the GOP has been terrified of the black vote ever since the Voting Rights Act of 1965 made affirmative gerrymandering legal. Republicans responded to the emergence of black voting blocs with counter-campaigns to disenfranchise black voters and the rest is history. Blacks don't like to vote Republican for the very simple reason that the Republican Party
needs to disenfranchise the black vote in order to survive politically. The Democratic plantation is a myth.
I believe dangerous people should be in prison. All others can do community service where they can be taught how to act like an African or West indies immigrant. The reason American Blacks cannot compete with the success of Africans is the Democratic party.
Not really, the discrepancy can be attributed to the fact that black immigrants
are better educated.