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By blackjack21
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jimjam wrote:You know, I totally predicted a right out of the box snide Woodstock comment ……. not only that but I predicted it would come from my favorite smug know it all rich boy ….. BJ21 :lol: . BJ you have become about as predictable as your pay master Obese Donald. In some ways you are very bright and, in other ways, rather a cypher.

A few people died at Woodstock. It wasn't all peace and love. I live about 20 miles North of Altamont Pass, where another Woodstock-like concert was promoted by the same guy, Michael Lang, and it resulted in a murder and a few accidental deaths too along with someone on LSD drowning in an irrigation canal. I guess that's the sort of thing that happens when you hire the Hells Angels for security.

By contrast, Trump rallies are generally peaceful. Although, they give the finger to the fake news. So what?

jimjam wrote:ps, now that America is trump's idea of greatness I propose that we remove E.Pluribus Unum from our coinage :eek:

Oh, I'm sure they will once they get rid of Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Jackson, Grant, Hamilton, and Franklin.
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By jimjam
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blackjack21 wrote:A few people died at Woodstock. It wasn't all peace and love


Two things: 1) I was there and you were not there 2) Once again you are beside the point and, like your boy Obese Donald, dodging the point to fit your personal script. Point was: peace and love is preferred by jimjam over the anger and hate promoted by Donald …… self serving anecdotal events notwithstanding.

"Oh, I'm sure they will once they get rid of Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Jackson, Grant, Hamilton, and Franklin."BJ#21

Another artful dodge by the Artful Dodger …… point was: Don The Con is a master of the time tested divide and conquer tatic of divide and conquer as evidenced by the division and chaos currently prevailing in America which has turned E. Pluribus Unum (from many , one) into a sad farce.
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By Julian658
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jimjam wrote:Two things: 1) I was there and you were not there 2) Once again you are beside the point and, like your boy Obese Donald, dodging the point to fit your personal script. Point was: peace and love is preferred by jimjam over the anger and hate promoted by Donald …… self serving anecdotal events notwithstanding.

"Oh, I'm sure they will once they get rid of Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Jackson, Grant, Hamilton, and Franklin."BJ#21

Another artful dodge by the Artful Dodger …… point was: Don The Con is a master of the time tested divide and conquer tatic of divide and conquer as evidenced by the division and chaos currently prevailing in America which has turned E. Pluribus Unum (from many , one) into a sad farce.

Sadly the playbook of Donald Trump is the same playbook of the Democrats.

Trump panders to Evangelicals, patriots, and people of European origin.

The Democrats pander to LGBTQIA, colored people, and the hate America crowd.

Group ID politics is evil on either side, but more so on the left. The left created group ID politics and the noble victim syndrome to get voters.

BTW, the Whites on the left are also racists. They practice condescending racism of low expectations and sadly the colored people are so thirsty for affirmation that they cannot see it. lt is a bit like a player putting on the moves on a woman with low self esteem that needs external affirmation. Her self esteem is so low that she loves the attention.
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By jimjam
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Mike Shields, a G.O.P. strategist involved in outside-spending efforts to support Mr. Trump, said Republicans had to seize the opportunity to sully Mr. Biden in a new way. He said efforts to brand Mr. Biden as nearly senile were not working.

“He should not be portrayed as doddering; he should be portrayed as what he is: someone who will drown our vulnerable economy and gladly sign Nancy Pelosi’s radical left legislation into law,” Mr. Shields said, adding of Mr. Biden, “General election voters simply don’t know this yet, so the sooner the better.”

This is very nice, however, we continue to wait for Donald's plan to provide all American's with affordable health care ……. :?:
By Pants-of-dog
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Sivad wrote:The neocon deep state endorses Biden:


The article does not mention whether or not the people who support Biden are neo-cons. While Shrub was one, as are all the Bushes, this does not mean that neo-cons as a whole generally support Trump.

I assume that most neo-cons support Trump on some things (like deregulation and pressure on Venezuela) and disagree with him on others, and that there is no consensus among neo-cons as to Trump.

Trump does not seem to be hurting their business.
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By Drlee
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Anyway, the latest lame meme from the Democrats is that Trump will drop out of the race and isn't mentally competent, which is obvious reverse psychology since Biden failed his Montreal Cognitive Assessment-


Source?
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By JohnRawls
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@blackjack21

You have a stupid position then. Trump is doing more damage than benefit. By a big margain. The lower taxes is one of the few good debatable things that he has done. Then again, it has all been deleted by his mismanagement of COVID. A horrible mismanagement of COVID. Unemployment soared, incomes fell, etc
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By jimjam
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blackjack21 wrote:A few people died at Woodstock. It wasn't all peace and love.


Only two people died at the Woodstock festival — one reportedly from a drug overdose, and one from a tractor driver accidentally running over an attendee who was sleeping in a nearby field. There were no reports of violence.

Sorry BJ ……. I could not resist highlighting another of your stereotypical prejudices typical of "normal" people like you . It's ok though …………. you are better than most and have the $ to prove it :lol: .
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By jimjam
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Excepting the millionaire/billionaire class who have already banked their payoff from Obese Donald, most of Donald's base are morons who take pride in their stupidity. They are frequently seen with their mouths wide open shouting dumb shit. Here are 3 winners attacking a man for wearing a mask :eek: .

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By Donna
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Sivad wrote:which neocons supported him? most of them were never trumpers that endorsed Clinton.

It's bonkers how you just make shit up out of thin air that everybody knows is blatant bullshit. It's like you don't understand the purpose of lying is to successfully deceive people, you seem to think it's just to make up some obviously fake retarded shit just for the hell of it. :lol: :knife:


This kinda just shows how dumb you are, Sivad. The neoconservative GOP establishment rallied around Trump at the Republican National Convention. A few outliers from the old guard, like Bush and Romney, became never-trumpers but stupid morons like yourself interpret this as some kind of epistemological break between neoconservatism and Trumpism.

This is why your reactions to my posts always include a rage-filled rant about myself. It's like pointing out the fact that you got conned and your side doesn't speak truth to power triggers some dissonance on your part. Stay mad, motherfucker.
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Donna wrote:This kinda just shows how dumb you are, Sivad. The neoconservative GOP establishment rallied around Trump at the Republican National Convention. A few outliers from the old guard, like Bush and Romney, became never-trumpers but stupid morons like yourself interpret this as some kind of epistemological break between neoconservatism and Trumpism.


https://theintercept.com/2016/02/29/neo ... ald-trump/

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/08 ... trump.html

Why would a neocon support Trump? Trump is anti-interventionist, probably the least interventionist POTUS since pre-WWII. He's the antithesis of the neocon ideology, which wants US military expansion.
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By Donna
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Unthinking Majority wrote:https://theintercept.com/2016/02/29/neoconservatives-declare-war-on-donald-trump/

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/08 ... trump.html

Why would a neocon support Trump? Trump is anti-interventionist, probably the least interventionist POTUS since pre-WWII. He's the antithesis of the neocon ideology, which wants US military expansion.


Trump isn't an anti-interventionist and since becoming president he has embraced all of the ideological pillars of neoconservatism, from courting the Zionist lobby to pandering to the evangelical voter base.

If you think he is the antithesis of neoconservatism then you've been thoroughly conned.
By Pants-of-dog
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Because Trump supports many other neocon policies like deregulation, support of Israel, anti-Marxism, anti-liberal thought, and support for authoritarian regimes abroad.
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Donna wrote:Trump isn't an anti-interventionist and since becoming president he has embraced all of the ideological pillars of neoconservatism, from courting the Zionist lobby to pandering to the evangelical voter base.

If you think he is the antithesis of neoconservatism then you've been thoroughly conned.

Neoconservatism in the 90's and 2000's was primarily concerned with foreign policy.

I agree about the Israel part, Trump is very pro-Israel. But he also doesn't start wars and he wants to retract the US military and make NATO increase it's share of the military expense burden.
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By Donna
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Unthinking Majority wrote:Neoconservatism in the 90's and 2000's was primarily concerned with foreign policy.


No it wasn't. It was built on all of the evangelical silent majority bullshit that started under Reagan and it hasn't changed since, except for becoming increasingly more nativist and racist.

I agree about the Israel part, Trump is very pro-Israel. But he also doesn't start wars and he wants to retract the US military and make NATO increase it's share of the military expense burden.


He wants to retract the US military? :lol:

Is that why military spending has increased to the highest it has been since the Bush years? Is that why he keeps moving major military assets into the South China Sea while in the middle of a trade war with China? Is that why he nearly ignited a regional war in the Middle East by assassinating an Iranian general?

lol. Good one, UM.
By Sivad
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Donna wrote: stupid morons like yourself interpret this as some kind of epistemological break between neoconservatism and Trumpism.


Donna doesn't know what epistemological means.
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By Julian658
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Donna wrote:Trump isn't an anti-interventionist and since becoming president he has embraced all of the ideological pillars of neoconservatism, from courting the Zionist lobby to pandering to the evangelical voter base.

If you think he is the antithesis of neoconservatism then you've been thoroughly conned.

Donna: Trump also dismantled the incarceration legislation put into effect by your boy Biden. He has also given a ton of money to black universities, more than your darling Biden.
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By blackjack21
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jimjam wrote:Two things: 1) I was there and you were not there

Not a good place for a toddler.

jimjam wrote:Point was: peace and love is preferred by jimjam over the anger and hate promoted by Donald …

Donald Trump does not promote anger or hate. He does leverage the anger of voters at the Washington establishment. That means he is listening to voter concerns.

jimjam wrote:Don The Con is a master of the time tested divide and conquer tatic of divide and conquer as evidenced by the division and chaos currently prevailing in America which has turned E. Pluribus Unum (from many , one) into a sad farce.

Trump has done more than any president in recent memory to bring down the black unemployment rate, or to increase the wages of working class people. Trump also reversed the horrible sentencing laws written by Joe Biden himself. If you judge people by what they accomplished in terms of legislation, Joe Biden seems to be the much angrier and much meaner person.

Julian658 wrote:Trump panders to Evangelicals, patriots, and people of European origin.

The Democrats pander to LGBTQIA, colored people, and the hate America crowd.

Trump has reached out to black voters, which is why the race narrative is over the top this year and frankly doesn't make much sense.

Julian658 wrote:BTW, the Whites on the left are also racists.

Also? They have always been the vanguard of racism in the US.

jimjam wrote:He said efforts to brand Mr. Biden as nearly senile were not working.

That's because nobody can see Biden. He's AWOL. Every time he makes a public statement, he says something stupid. It used to be kind of funny, but it's getting concerning.

JohnRawls wrote:Then again, it has all been deleted by his mismanagement of COVID. A horrible mismanagement of COVID. Unemployment soared, incomes fell, etc

Trump didn't force lockdowns on anyone. That was state governors. Trump doesn't even have that power. You can thank Newsom, Cuomo, Wolf, Murphy and the like. Which states have the highest unemployment? Blue states. Which states had the most stringent lockdowns? Blue states. They also rendered their efforts moot by encouraging "protests" of the George Floyd killing, causing a spike in cases nationwide. Trump also didn't force elderly infected people into nursing homes to spread the Wuhan coronavirus to other elderly patients, as Cuomo did.

jimjam wrote:most of Donald's base are morons who take pride in their stupidity.

Most of Biden's supporters take pride in their violence, theft, arson, looting, and general lawlessness.

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Gotta love those Democrat voters... :roll:
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By Donna
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Sivad wrote:Donna doesn't know what epistemological means.


lol so you don't actually have an argument when it's pointed out to you that Trump is a neocon.
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By Julian658
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blackjack21 wrote:Trump has reached out to black voters, which is why the race narrative is over the top this year and frankly doesn't make much sense.



Trump could bring the unemployment rate down to 0% in black America and give all of of them a massive salary increase. The BLM types do not care, the people that embrace the noble victim role do not care, the America haters that want to destroy Mount Rushmore don't care, and certainly the socialists do not care. They are all represented in this forum.

And then you have the colored people that are desperate for affirmation from the left wing white elite. The people that fail to see the condescending bigotry of low expectations.
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