Istanbuller wrote:I advice you to read about Ottoman history. You will understand Ottoman legacy better. Both Libya and Saudi Arabia were a Turkish territory. It was just a hundred years ago. Ottoman legacy is something beyond nationalism. It is an umbrella. For this reason, any attempt to revive Ottoman country is always a possibility.
We will get. Maybe now or ten years later. We will do it.
Turkey's military presence is growing. More the EU/Russia/ American push for anti-Turkey policies, Turkey becomes more powerful. There will be times we won't need NATO membership anymore. We will be capable of fighting in multiple fronts.
18 years ago when Erdogan came into power for the first time, Turkey wasn't able to produce a simple rifle because of dependence on America and NATO. It just took 10 years to nationalize %80 of Turkey's military equipment. Believe me Turkey is taking over both Russia and Europe is not far away.
You really have to realise, Ottoman empire was just a small and unfortunate page of middle Eastern and balkan history and legacy.
Hellenic, Slavic, Arab and Iranian peoples used to rule this place for thousands of years before Turkey was even a concept.
You were lucky to be the one who filled the power vacuum caused by the collapse of the byzantine empire (which was the USA of medieval era). You were nothing more than a necessary evil for the west, just a temporary filler until they would decide what they would do with the lands once ruled by byzantium. And your fall is still not completed
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Proof of this, is first of all, all the regional history between 1500s until 1800s(full of Turkey being lured into Western traps and getting humiliated worldwide) .
Also, you only lasted 400 years (and that's by adding the 200 years in which the West was keeping you alive because they still haven't decided what to do with these lands). The only time we can consider a "golden age" during the Ottoman rule, that'd be from the rule of Mahmut the Conqueror (1451)until the death of Suleiman the Magnificent (1566), in which there was a very relative stability and growth within the empire. But still not a real golden age.
You say everywhere there is legacy of the Ottoman empire. Yes that's true, you can understand all the regions turks ruled before, because they all politically very instable,financially and infrastructure wise undeveloped and very back in tech and society structure.
The Ottoman rule signed the fall of Eastern rule (Greeks, Arabs, Iranians, assyrians) , and signaled the beginning of Western rule (British, German, French) over the world.
Literature, laws, poetry, arts, language, society, religion. Everything stopped progressing and going forward when turks came in.
Turkish rule was only a very unfortunate period for the humanity and history of this region.
In the far future (maybe not so far), Turkish problem will have been solved with resolution by their neighbouring states or the world powers. Because turkey is just a problem for everyone and such states never last for long.
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