skinster wrote:Oh please stop talking like a lawyer and let's get the human from inside you, wat0n. The cops are murderers and they murder regularly and the George Floyd tragedy is one of hundreds that haven't been caught on camera.
Sing it with me, wat0n, hey hey, ho ho, these killer cops have got to go
Oh, I think it's a foregone conclusion they'll go
The thing is, I try to see this from a more rational perspective - I'm not as involved, perhaps because I wasn't born in the US.
And it's actually useful because, well, when people try to argue stuff like "well, he was saying he couldn't breathe" or "well, he had some drugs in his system", or some other claims like that, you can tell exactly that these are all red herrings (in fact, saying he couldn't breathe actually strengthens the case that the use of force was unjustified), and that the cops involved have no excuses: They weren't under any visible threat, George Floyd was not actively resisting (at most, he was hard for them to handle since he's tall, built and panicking... But they are trained to know what to do in these cases), neck restraints were against their employer's policy in this situation, autopsies have all ruled it was a homicide despite any other conditions (i.e. there's scientific evidence George Floyd died as a result of the cops' actions), and in Chauvin's case it's also possible he even personally knew George Floyd. Of course, only a court of law can say they are guilty but I don't see how is it that they will get away with it. Specially, Derek Chauvin, who should at least get convicted for manslaughter and third degree murder, and second degree murder if it turns out he did indeed know George Floyd (as I find it hard to claim there was no intent to kill in that case).
One can argue about the overall use of force/brutality by American police or why it happens, but in this case, I find it hard to argue the cops are not responsible based on the available evidence thus far.