[Finfinder]

Kim Gardner, the local DA, does.

Mark and Patricia McCloskey, the lawyers who drew guns on protesters marching through the grounds of their $1.15m mansion, have been charged with unlawful use of a weapon.

Class E felonies like unlawful use of a weapon can carry prison sentences of up to four years.

You really don't have a handle on US politics at all. The State attorney general and the Governor of Missouri are blocking Gardners obvious political ploy. It's basic 2nd amendment rights. This will never go to trial.

Why the secrecy? Why so embarrased if they support Trump?

I am not embarrased of any candidate I support...

This is the same sort of rhetoric that Sean Spicer was babbling earlier. It merely shines light into the fact that Trump is a despicable human being and that most people understand this.

Because they don't want the people you support and cheer to burn their house down and shoot their kids because they support something the president does.

Poll: 62% of Americans Say They Have Political Views They’re Afraid to Share

Anew Cato national survey finds that self‐​censorship is on the rise in the United States. Nearly two-thirds—62%—of Americans say the political climate these days prevents them from saying things they believe because others might find them offensive. The share of Americans who self‐​censor has risen several points since 2017 when 58% of Americans agreed with this statement.

Political Opinion Chart

These fears cross partisan lines. Majorities of Democrats (52%), independents (59%) and Republicans (77%) all agree they have political opinions they are afraid to share.



https://www.cato.org/publications/surve ... expression

[Rancid]

You really don't have a handle on US politics at all. The State attorney general and the Governor of Missouri are blocking Gardners obvious political ploy. It's basic 2nd amendment rights. This will never go to trial.

Very true. Property rights, and gun rights are going to obviously prevail here. The problem is, the media will likely not follow up on this story. the media is generally very bad at following up on stories.

[Finfinder]

Very true. Property rights, and gun rights are going to obviously prevail here. The problem is, the media will likely not follow up on this story. the media is generally very bad at following up on stories.

That and simply just making up news. Nick Sandman just settled another $250 million dollar law suit. So far now CNN and the Washington post, the liberal media does not care, they will make anything up to help their political pals keep power. They no longer report the news.

[XogGyux]

When it comes to violent crime, most violent criminals are Democrats or lean Democrat. I never suggested only Democrats are criminals. Quite the contrary. I have said that violent criminal behavior tends to be highest among Democrats, and it's not a close race.


Arrests for "planning" seem perhaps a bit flimsy to me. Actual shootings also seem to be anti-Trump types. For example, the shooting of Steve Scalise and other Republicans was an anti-Trump guy. The shootings in these riots are mostly Democrats shooting other Democrats.


As I said many months ago, they won't be able to keep the country shut down without violence erupting. So they tried to channel the violence toward left wing causes. Recently, that would be highlighting the death of George Floyd by a police officer in a Democrat-run police department and Democrat-run city, county and state. Trump had nothing to do with it. Protecting Federal buildings and court houses doesn't put gasoline on any fire. Trump is just upholding the law, which is what Democrat-run cities should be doing too.

The air must be really really thin up there where you live. The oxygen is hardly getting to your brain.
You keep deluding yourself thinking that Trump has nothing to do with any of this. The whole country is in peril and it is not in trouble due to a single problem. Multiple problems all of which have been downplayed or ignored or flat out caused by this administration.
Trade wars, erosion of our allies, ignoring science, promotion of rivalry among Americans, pandemic, protests, racial tensions just to name a handful. Not a single one of these problems is limited to a "democrat city" or "democrat state" or any of that nonsense. All of the problems we are experiencing right now are occurring NATIONALLY. The protests? Nationally. Racism? Nationally. Pandemic? Nationally, Unemployment? Nationally, Evictions soon? Nationally, People dying from a preventative disease? Nationally, hate between citizens? Nationally, Farmers basically at the brink of bankruptcy or having to be sustained with artificial government subsidies due to failed trade policies? Nationally.
So you can try to mentally masturbate to the thought that it is "democrats" or "liberals" dismantling this country... But you only have to unmask a thin onion outer layer to see what it is patently obvious. National problems due to a failure of the federal government due to weak and ineffective leadership. Under Obama we had H1N1 and Ebola... our current pandemic does not even compare. Under Obama we had unrest in Baltimore, what we have around the country does not even compare. Under Obama we had hurricane Sandy wrecked the US just like Maria did... the response of the two leaders? Vastly different. We can find a parallel to every major peril that we are facing today and find an equivalent in most previous administrations (both Republicans and Democrats) with the difference being, that every single previous one took the job far more seriously and was far more efficient at dealing with them.

You have me at a disadvantage here. Only you can give yourself permission to see what it is patently obvious .

[Atlantis]

That's quite a strange twist. I'm not sure how you arrive at that conclusion. However, taking draconian climate change policies seriously essentially does what lockdowns do to people--it destroys the economy. A lot of people do not like being poor.

That's a strange way of distorting what you read.

The pandemic has shown that denial doesn't work. Ignoring the pandemic doesn't just result in a tremendous loss of life, it also destroys the economy. The US economy won't recover for a very long time from a 2nd lockdown. With timely action, even the 1st lockdown would not have been necessary.

In other words, if you hadn't made the wrong choices, you could have saved both lives and the economy.

The same applies to climate change. Denial is not an option because it'll hit you sooner of later. The winners will be those who rise to the challenge and invest in renewable energy. The losers will be the deniers who stick with the old dirty technology, which will be more expensive than the new technology.

Again, you'll lose and become impoverished. Your choice!

[XogGyux]

That's a strange way of distorting what you read.

The pandemic has shown that denial doesn't work. Ignoring the pandemic doesn't just result in a tremendous loss of life, it also destroys the economy. The US economy won't recover for a very long time from a 2nd lockdown. With timely action, even the 1st lockdown would not have been necessary.

In other words, if you hadn't made the wrong choices, you could have saved both lives and the economy.

The same applies to climate change. Denial is not an option because it'll hit you sooner of later. The winners will be those who rise to the challenge and invest in renewable energy. The losers will be the deniers who stick with the old dirty technology, which will be more expensive than the new technology.

Again, you'll lose and become impoverished. Your choice!

Precisely. And the worse part, we are not strangers to taking drastic, but necessary action when in the past we were facing economic vs damaging our environment. Remember CFCs and Ozone? Remember lead into our fuels? How many times we had to hear the excuses of economic doom and how company x or company y would go out of business.

[Rancid]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/27/opinions/biden-trump-presidential-election-lockhart/index.html

The headline say's it all.

"Joe Biden could still lose this election"

No fucking shit dumbasses, Biden fucking sucks.

[XogGyux]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/27/opinions/biden-trump-presidential-election-lockhart/index.html

The headline say's it all.

"Joe Biden could still lose this election"

No fucking shit dumbasses, Biden fucking sucks.

They are not dumbassess. This is how they make $$ by keeping people hooked into reading/watching all the crap that they put out. The crap is more attractive when there is some sort of suspense, etc.
All we can do is vote if you are eligible, 2 talk with everyone willing to see reason and make sure they vote, 3 have some hope.
If Biden is not your cup of tea, just imagine he is nothing but the stepping ladder for a slightly better candidate in 2024 (I suspect he wont run again). All we need to make sure, the country does not descend into a full dictatorship prior to then.

[blackjack21]

Ignoring the pandemic doesn't just result in a tremendous loss of life, it also destroys the economy.

Sweden proved that wrong. You don't have to lock down to address the issue.

The US economy won't recover for a very long time from a 2nd lockdown.

Blue states and big urban centers won't. Other parts of the economy will rebound quickly.

With timely action, even the 1st lockdown would not have been necessary.

In other words, if you hadn't made the wrong choices, you could have saved both lives and the economy.

America has 50 different states, like Europe's 27. They each have their own governor and police powers. They act completely independent of each other and of the Federal government. There is no "you" in this equation, because there are many different actors.

Denial is not an option because it'll hit you sooner of later.

That doesn't mean people will feel compelled to take action.

Again, you'll lose and become impoverished. Your choice!

A lot of people have listened to the neoliberals/neoconservatives and lost and become impoverished. Given a choice, they no longer vote for those people.

[Wulfschilde]

The legacy continues...

2016:


2020:


Probably we'll see a vaccine within a couple months (I doubt every single one of those research companies could be wrong) and more countries are getting on board with the hydroxychloroquine, so the dam is breaking on that thing too. With those things combined and the fact that a death spike is clearly not materializing after the case numbers went up, COVID scaremongers will be getting the smackdown, the economy will come roaring back and a handful of liberal states will have everyone moving out (even more so than already) because they'll be the only places in the world still under lockdown.

[XogGyux]

The legacy continues...

2016:


2020:


Probably we'll see a vaccine within a couple months (I doubt every single one of those research companies could be wrong) and more countries are getting on board with the hydroxychloroquine, so the dam is breaking on that thing too. With those things combined and the fact that a death spike is clearly not materializing after the case numbers went up, COVID scaremongers will be getting the smackdown, the economy will come roaring back and a handful of liberal states will have everyone moving out (even more so than already) because they'll be the only places in the world still under lockdown.

I love those pictures.
It symbolizes everything wrong with Trumpists.


The fire in the background represents America on fire... just like during the riots.
The money in the background is the money we are printing and burning trying to keep afloat our companies which are suffering and will continue to suffer as long as this disease is not controlled.
The Flag on the right is in rags, just like our country.
The Flying saucer on the right represents the conspiracy theories that the crazy rightwing likes to embrace (Qanon/Vaccine/Pizzagate, Soros, etc)
The windmill on the left corner is an obvious reference to Don Quixote... when the crazy demented old man attacks the windmills which he mistook by Giants. The same way that Trump is using immigrants, minorities, protesters, etc as a target.
The styled cane on the left hand symbolizes the golden crib that this ashole was born into... money... certainly not a man of the people.
The right hand is a heil Hitler disgusting reference.
The train represents America about to derail.

[ingliz]

@Wulfschilde

Seeing as immunity only lasts a few months, the virus can mutate at any time, and the disease is not seasonal like flu... Good luck with that.

p.s. Another serious concern is “antibody-induced enhancement” where the antibodies produced by a vaccine actually make future infections worse. The effect caused serious lung damage in animals given experimental vaccines for both Sars and Mers.

[Wulfschilde]

Turnout data also suggests that Trump will win this, if you consider how the electoral college works.

Trump won in 2016 with a 2% lower share in the popular vote.

Trump barely lost the 2016 House elections (but broke even in the Senate elections) when Democrats had 2% higher turnout than Republicans. Thing is, those numbers actually look similar to how Trump won federally in 2016.
Edit: They had 3% higher in the Senate elections, but actually lost those anyway.

So what will happen in 2020? If Biden maintains the 2% higher number of voters that we saw in 2016 and 2018, he loses. But in many key demographic groups (such as black voters) Biden actually underperforms Hillary, which suggests that he will not maintain or exceed (which is what he needs to win) the 2% difference.

Also, Amish people in swing states do not get polled at all. There's 80,000 Amish in Pennsylvania alone that are not even being counted. That alone is more than enough to swing an election.

Edit2: Thinking about it more, I think victory for Biden is still an outside possibility if they could peel off Trump voters as well as get enthusiasm up to Hillary levels but there is no sign that this is happening. Trump continues to have historically high approval rating within the Republican party and Republican Senators are getting bigger turnout to their Senate primaries than Democrats are getting in the uncontested presidential primary (this just happened in Arizona, anyway, where 34% of people still voted for Bernie; Biden only got 44% of the primary vote in his uncontested primary). So all evidence there points to the Republican share of the turnout being at least as high as it has been in the past. Finally, all of this "peaceful protests" stuff will increase Republican turnout but there is only evidence to suggest that it suppresses Democrat turnout.