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Should COVID vaccine be mandatory?

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#15111276
So the Political rant of communism against facts still continues. Socialism is like a mary jane treat that leads to hard drugs, or as it becomes communism for the mentally weak or the unarmed. President Trump is the answer to many law abiding, taxpaying, legal, Patriotic, American citizen's dreams. Finally, after the 8 years of the Hawaiian Muslim slumlord pimp's heinous crimes against America's middle class. Allowing open borders for all illegals to crush wages and increase taxation with no reparations for the fentanyl kings and queens that will riot for each other and loot against all odds as long as a Gubment Check is waiting for them in the mail or getting Mad Maxine to hand deliver each one with an attached mail in ballot. Never vote for an Antifa Loving, BLM Supporting, Police Defunding, Communist, Leftist Democrat this Century. Thanks to Almighty God that Joe Biden is a Brain Dead Fool. Glory to Almighty God that crooked Hillary will cough up the canary and sing about Obama Gate and China's favorite career criminal politician Joe Biden. Illegals still Suck!
#15111278
Chad wrote:So the Political rant of communism against facts still continues. Socialism is like a mary jane treat that leads to hard drugs, or as it becomes communism for the mentally weak or the unarmed. President Trump is the answer to many law abiding, taxpaying, legal, Patriotic, American citizen's dreams. Finally, after the 8 years of the Hawaiian Muslim slumlord pimp's heinous crimes against America's middle class. Allowing open borders for all illegals to crush wages and increase taxation with no reparations for the fentanyl kings and queens that will riot for each other and loot against all odds as long as a Gubment Check is waiting for them in the mail or getting Mad Maxine to hand deliver each one with an attached mail in ballot. Never vote for an Antifa Loving, BLM Supporting, Police Defunding, Communist, Leftist Democrat this Century. Thanks to Almighty God that Joe Biden is a Brain Dead Fool. Glory to Almighty God that crooked Hillary will cough up the canary and sing about Obama Gate and China's favorite career criminal politician Joe Biden. Illegals still Suck!


I would say you don't have a clue what you are talking about, but I think you do and I think you are just a simple troll trying to cause misinformation and chaos.
You are a despicable being.
#15111286
Illegal mandates and tax penalties are not hard to remember for America's taxpaying legal citizens that did not ask for them in any way shape or form. I am surprised by any of the agitators on this site that really would consider Biden as an actual choice. He has sold out to China and will move the globalist machine right into America's kitchen. Josef Stalin was a bad man and the harm that Biden would allow is pale in comparison. You keep worrying about trolls and avoid all the bridges to sanity at the same time. Trump-Pence 2016-2024!!!
#15111287
I hope they do make it mandatory, a good whiff of tyranny will work like smelling salts. And when it cripples or kills a bunch of NPCs that'll really get the herd's attention. A mandatory covid vaccine is guaranteed to end in hilarity.
#15111289
It sure would have been nice to see how many New Yorkers would have survived this Fauci Wuhan Flu if Killer Cuomo had allowed any and all treatments to be used by doctors and nurses. Imagine banning effective treatments because some Fredo believes it will hurt the Opposite Political Party Affiliate. Democrats are constantly shooting themselves in the foot. If they would just not hit Biden anywhere but his head nothing would be hurt. Biden is Brain Dead. Biden is a casualty of the globalist machine of Communism that buys whatever it can and kills the rest. A lot like Josef Stalin's group are today's Globalist Democrats.
#15111290
@Sivad Where were you marching when they instituted the tyranny of Seatbelts. :roll:

These are childish arguments made by people who think they know better than scientists and doctors because they saw a meme or a Youtube video. :knife:
#15111296
It's sad that there are so many gullible saps who doubt things because they've seen a meme or a Youtube video, by some idiot, and dismiss actual peer-reviewed science, in favour of bollocks.
#15111682
Drlee wrote:I fear it will be worse. I am noticing that people are just tiring of precautions. I see more masks but in Costco yesterday about one in five mask wearers had pulled them below their noses or even all the way down. Clearly these people are dangerous idiots who should be compelled not to kill other people but some profoundly stupid people see this as a political statement.

What is so sad about this (and I do really mean tragically sad) is that with proper leadership in Washington we would be far far better off than we are now. We would have a tiny fraction of the infections, deaths and disability that we have now.

Even if we get a vaccine as Dr. X has said, that does not mean we can all run out and have a hug fest. In the near term it does not even mean that we can stop mask wearing or physical distancing. It will be a very long time, if ever, that this becomes the case. In the near term it might mean a modicum of protection for health care workers and the very vulnerable.

I fear we are heading for a massive resurgence of this disease in the near future. Indeed it is going on now. But still no leadership. We don't even have the contact tracing in place to fight the disease. We do not have stockpiles of supplies. We do not have economic protections. What we do have is a republican party hell bent to destroy this country.

Vaccines will never be mandatory unless states do it piecemeal. Requiring vaccines for every regulated thing. School attendance, food handling, park usage, employment outside of the home, etc. Sadly many states are simply not going to do it because they have no leadership.

Look at the death of Herman Cain. He flaunted not wearing a mask, attended a mass gathering without one, and he died of the disease. When it was pointed out that he might be alive today if he had taken routine precautions Republicans immediately went into hair-on-fire mode and accused democrats of politicizing his death. Really? Rather than taking his death, among the 160,000 others out there, as a cautionary tale and admitting that, just maybe, his life could have been saved. And this is what passes for leadership in the fly-over states. It is beyond sad. It is a human tragedy of Biblical proportions. And we know exactly who to blame. And it is not the Chinese.

Reminds me of the story of " Lil' Sneezer " .
Vaccines are nothing new either , but also neither is controversy . At least vaccines have gotten better than during the 1700's , I would say . https://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2016/09/how_vaccination_helped_win_the_revolutionary_war.html , https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/623428/george-washington-won-american-revolution-with-smallpox-vaccine I first heard of this historical example , from this episode of " Liberty's Kids" .
So I have conditional support for mandating inoculation . Aside from those with medical exemption , all should comply with such a policy .
#15111727
Godstud wrote:@Sivad Where were you marching when they instituted the tyranny of Seatbelts. :roll:

These are childish arguments made by people who think they know better than scientists and doctors because they saw a meme or a Youtube video. :knife:


If governments would have applied corona logic to address the issue of driving injuries and fatalities, they would have just declared that certain people in certain locations would be unable to drive until the number of accidents reached a certain level.
#15111729
maz wrote:If governments would have applied corona logic to address the issue of driving injuries and fatalities, they would have just declared that certain people in certain locations would be unable to drive until the number of accidents reached a certain level.


Well, that's actually one criterion used to decide where to place traffic lights and stop signs.
#15111739
@maz If governments would have applied corona logic to address the issue of driving injuries and fatalities, they would have just declared that certain people in certain locations would be unable to drive until the number of accidents reached a certain level.


Are you aware just how stupid this statement is? Obviously not. Here is what a grown up would say about it.
If governments would have applied corona logic...


There is no such thing. It is actually called "science". That is a thing with which republicans are very uncomfortable.

they would have just declared that certain people in certain locations would be unable to drive until the number of accidents reached a certain level.


Acquiring corona virus is not an accident. It is a highly preventable disease. If people had the same training in how to avoid corona virus and they have to get a drivers license, the disease would be over by now. But be proud Maz. Trump relies on people with you level of analytical skill.
#15111741
Drlee wrote:Are you aware just how stupid this statement is? Obviously not. Here is what a grown up would say about it.


There is no such thing. It is actually called "science". That is a thing with which republicans are very uncomfortable.



Acquiring corona virus is not an accident. It is a highly preventable disease. If people had the same training in how to avoid corona virus and they have to get a drivers license, the disease would be over by now. But be proud Maz. Trump relies on people with you level of analytical skill.


Yeah, not to mention accidents and most other types of deaths are not contagious and with a propensity to spread exponentially. Next time that on day 1 one interception causes 1 dead, day 10 causes 2 deat, day 20 causes 10 deaths, day 30 causes 100 deaths, day 40 causes 450 deaths, day 50 causes 1200 deaths day 60 causes 2400 deaths day 70 causes 7000 deaths and day 80 causes 20k deaths... I am sure governments will be re-vising their traffic laws :lol:
#15111748
Drlee wrote:There is no such thing. It is actually called "science". That is a thing with which republicans are very uncomfortable.


Go ahead then, and produce your "science."

Drlee wrote:Acquiring corona virus is not an accident. It is a highly preventable disease. If people had the same training in how to avoid corona virus and they have to get a drivers license, the disease would be over by now. But be proud Maz. Trump relies on people with you level of analytical skill.


Diving accidents are probably MORE preventable than the coronawhatever.

I know, because I have taken the defensive driving classes, which were based off statistics and "science."
#15111749
@maz So when did car accidents become infectious and likely to kill doctors and nurses who treat you?

Stop being a numpty. :lol:
#15111751
Nope.

No vaccine should be mandatory. People have the right to refuse vaccinations because of personal beliefs and/or religious beliefs. Especially highly experimental new vaccines which may have as yet unknown adverse side effects.

I would support the usual "your child can't come to childcare if no vaccination" low level push back.

Reason: I've read 1984 many times, only idiots trust the government. It was not too long ago the Vic government tried to scare us with a face mask shortage.... Now everyone must wear them and carry "Essential Worker" work permits...

Fuck them for making me have to quote Schindler's List to the cops if I'm stopped on the way to work.

"I am an essential worker! I work for Coles Supermarkets!"

Fuck.

Edit: Oh and I'm glad to give no the 7-6 win! Lol!
#15111757
It's not 7 to 6. I changed from No, to Yes. :p It's 7 to 6 for YES.

The low level push-back isn't enough, for many people.
#15111788
All i can say is that we are fucked. It is roughly 50-50 on here. I do understand that we have a higher than usual concentration of radicals on pofo but that drives a point. Trump will not introduce it. Republicans won't introduce it. May be some democrats might or democratic governors but that is also unlikely. Too bad we don't have many antivaxxers here. May be Sivad as i understand but I would have like to hear their point a bit more.

Basically people are hesitant and always say "but, but, but etc" even if they are for massive vaccination program. Politicians will interpret it as a no-go zone although it is a no-brainer 101 on how to stop COVID in its tracks and fix the economy. So probably not going to happen even in Europe. May be in some countries.

Outside of the Western world it is much easier i guess as long as the governments have the money and access to the vaccine. They will just mandate it without asking anyone.
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