Julian658 wrote:In the USA I meet two types of Latin Americans:
1. Born in the USA
The ones born in the USA, particularly if they are 2nd generation and up acquire the USA policy of race identity groups. Some eventually embrace the noble victim status and start talking like some American blacks with regards to victimhood.
The ones born in Latin America have a much superior sense of self identity and much better self esteem. They never embrace victimhood and see America as a paradise.
The same applies to USA born blacks versus immigrants from Africa or the West indies. The latter are totally different with much better self esteem.
Watch this video at 2:00. It is a young bright woman that has come to America to go college and is in shock with the identity politics. Even though she is clearly of African ancestry she had no concept of racial groups growing up and the end result is magnificent self esteem.
That's because us immigrants can compare the US with other societies, and even though America has its own share of serious problems (identity politics didn't come out from nowhere, you know? And let's not get into healthcare), we can appreciate its pros. Living abroad helps a lot to understand your own society.
I think it would be healthy for Americans to live in Latin America for a while. Not to go as a tourist, but actually live there, earn and live like a Latin American, deal with our societies' bullshit (which can easily be as bad as America's, and is worse) and then go back to the US and compare. Start by comparing poor American inner-city neighborhoods with Latin American ones, or American public housing with Latin American one, and then we can talk.
I'm pretty sure many Americans would say they have fond memories of Latin America, that but decide to stay in the US regardless. And they would hopefully start to understand why is it that Mexicans and Central Americans are willing to do whatever it takes (even if they die in the process) to get into the US and begin to adopt a more rational, and compassionate, position on immigration taking into account where they are coming from.