- 11 Aug 2020 17:11
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New insanity emerges from government. A forcing people to stay home is not a realistic measure for anything.
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maz wrote:New insanity emerges from government. A forcing people to stay home is not a realistic measure for anything.
XogGyux wrote:You got to have big balls to criticize a country that has had superb results and managed 3 months without a case, clearly, this had to come from outside. A handful of days to avoid the chaos that ensued in European countries and now in the US is worthwhile.
But offcourse, they are doing this because they are democrats and want to hurt Trump
XogGyux wrote:You got to have big balls to criticize a country that has had superb results and managed 3 months without a case, clearly, this had to come from outside. A handful of days to avoid the chaos that ensued in European countries and now in the US is worthwhile.
But offcourse, they are doing this because they are democrats and want to hurt Trump
maz wrote:It is collective punishment, and the government gets to assume a false moral authority and pretend that they are doing something without actually doing anything.
Julian658 wrote:NZ does well because is a small nation with high end citizens. New York would have done as well if they did not have loads of poor uneducated people living in closed cramped spaces. That does not change the fact that the prime minister is an SJW virtue signaling machine.
XogGyux wrote:That logic is crap.
It's the equivalent of saying.
Only one of the 100 people that drove at 150mph caused a crash... just punish that guy, why punish the rest.
Only one drunk guy of the 100 drunk guys that drove home crashed a car... just punish that guy, why punish the rest.
Julian658 wrote:I remember the prime minister of NZ dressed as a Muslim woman to give a speech. They are SJWish over there. Guns were immediately banned after ONE shooting.
maz wrote:
It is collective punishment, and the government gets to assume a false moral authority and pretend that they are doing something without actually doing anything.
Julian658 wrote:That does not change the fact that the prime minister is an SJW virtue signaling machine.
XogGyux wrote:What's your problem dude.. Somehow you always try to find the race/sjw angle to everything even when it is clearly nonsense. It is amusing sometimes, but after a while, it just gets boring and dumb.
Political Interest wrote:Empirical data has shown that New Zealand is also more collectivist versus individualist in comparison to other English speaking countries. The citizens are less precious about protecting their individual liberties and are more willing to do what they are told if they can be convinced it is for the greater good. This is in contrast to the US and UK where significant portions of the citizenry are obsessed with their personal rights, a party lifestyle and don't like putting themselves out for other people. New Zealanders dislike complaining and whinging. In the old days New Zealanders would often criticise immigrants from the UK for their perceived tendency to complain about how conditions do not meet their standards. Patriotic sentiments are very strong and the people there don't mind being mobilised if they think it is to protect the country.
That was done after a terrorist attack. It was to show solidarity with and comfort the Muslims of NZ as well as show the Islamic world that NZ is not an anti-Muslim country, which it is overwhelmingly not.
Gun laws in NZ were overly liberal, the most liberal in the Anglosphere outside the USA and were well in need of reform. Banning guns is not an SJW idea. There are right wing arguments for gun control as well, unless of course you want criminals and any lunatic to have access to firearms. It's yet again another example of American conservatives not realising that they are in fact very liberal.
Expressing solidarity with one's own citizens after a terrorist attack is not virtual signalling, it is the sign of an engaged and responsible leader.
Julian658 wrote:It may seem boring to you, but once SJWs start to run towns and cities we will see serious loss of freedom.
Political Interest wrote:It's not collective punishment but rather a collective measure. The whole society has to deal with the crisis. If one member of the society infects other people then everyone suffers. You have to manage the issue on a collective basis.
Political Interest wrote:What do you mean not actually doing anything? If we are looking for a government that is doing nothing then we need look no further than America. Maybe you would favour a more American style solution? The statistics themselves speak to the success of America's COVID-19 policy: Over 5, million cases nationally, the highest in the world. Trump's policy is simpy indefensible.
XogGyux wrote:Oh wait... I thought that they already did and that is why all the protests. I am confused now .
Dude, you are obsessed with race stuff. It is a fetish at this point, I wouldn't want to see your search history .
Julian658 wrote:The overwhelming majority of SJWs are white ugly women with green, pink, or purple hair. Some are feminized men with no testosterone. You may have a point.
XogGyux wrote:Right. Because that perfectly describes New Zeland PM's appearance to the teeth. Or maybe that describes AOC... or maybe the governor of Oregon or the Mayor of Portland. You have created a deluded imagine in your mind... a strawman (in this case a SJW).
Julian658 wrote:OK, they have a collective mindset. America was found on the concept of individualism
Rich wrote:No it wasn't. America was founded on the principle of authoritarian collectivism. Abolitionist literature was banned in some of the the Southern States in the days of the founders, while it was never banned back in Britain. It was only later activist Liberal judges that incorporated free speech as an individual right going totally against the authoritarian collectivist principles of the founders.
XogGyux wrote:You got to have big balls to criticize a country that has had superb results and managed 3 months without a case, clearly, this had to come from outside. A handful of days to avoid the chaos that ensued in European countries and now in the US is worthwhile.
But offcourse, they are doing this because they are democrats and want to hurt Trump
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