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The coronavirus is now the greatest psychological operation of the 21st century.

Coronavirus cancels 9/11 twin light beams tradition


The twin beams of light representing the World Trade Center will not illuminate the skies of New York City in 2020.

Twin beams of light representing the World Trade Center towers won't be beamed into the sky during this year's memorial of the 9/11 terror attacks in New York City because of concerns about the coronavirus pandemic, organizers of the annual ceremony said Thursday.

Michael Frazier, a spokesman for National September 11 Memorial & Museum, said organizers were concerned about the health risks to workers who would set up the display.

“The world’s beloved twin beams of light regrettably will not shine over Lower Manhattan as part of this year’s tributes,” Frazier said in a statement.

The Memorial & Museum is planning an alternative display that will include spires and facades of buildings in Manhattan being illuminated in blue, he said.

Last month, organizers also cited the pandemic in canceling one of the most poignant parts of previous memorials — the personal messages spoken by families of victims. They said recorded name readings from the museum's “In Memoriam” exhibition will be used instead of having relatives read the names in person.

Nearly 3,000 people were killed when terrorist-piloted planes slammed into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and a field in Pennsylvania on Sept. 11, 2001.



Bu the way, what ever happened to the jihad in American, sharia law and all that stuff from before 2015? It just went away lol
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More people have died from Covid-19 in New York, than people died in 9/11. That's simply fact. 23,610 deaths in New York City, alone.

Priorities. Why are remembering dead people more important than preserving the lives of those who live? No one's about to forget 9/11, so it's all just a "big show". You're an idiot if you think that it's psychological. :knife:


There never was a jihad, or Sharia law in USA. It was Islamophobic nonsense.
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Godstud wrote:Commemorating the dead isn't as important as preserving the living. Period.

Commemorating one dead repeat criminal who died of a heart attack, apparently is a lot more important than the deaths of 3000 odd people incinerated or buried under rubble.
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[quote="Godstud"]More people have died from Covid-19 in New York, than people died in 9/11. That's simply fact. 23,610 deaths in New York City, alone.

Priorities. Why are remembering dead people more important than preserving the lives of those who live? No one's about to forget 9/11, so it's all just a "big show". You're an idiot if you think that it's psychological. :knife:


So Fredo's brother AKA Covid Killer Cuomo denied medical treatments that work, He banned actual medicines that save lives. Cuomo potentially murdered all that died that were denied all available treatments. * That's simply fact. 23,610 deaths in New York City, alone.* So many Democrats following the same political aspirations have denied treatments and murdered tens of thousands of Americans. Wasn't it amazing how the first 150 thousand deaths appeared so quickly and slowed to a snails pace as the Democrats were forced to allow the same medical treatments that saved lives around the globe. The left would kill any and all to tank President Trump's agenda to drain the swamp of the bureaucracy that has been created over the last 50 years. Fact checking politicians is so easy these days. Most Politicians are in it for a career and not for the good of America or it's taxpaying legal citizens. Never vote for an Antifa Loving, BLM Supporting, Police Defunding, Fentanyl King Honoring, Leftist Democrat this Century. China's favorite career criminal politician Joe Biden and his VP pick K.H. referred to as Aunt Jemima are promoting the destruction of America's middle class by Promoting leftist socialism that Barry the Hawaiian Muslim failed to set in stone and started crumbling on election day in 2016. The dirty Democrats are being exposed as President Trump continues his quest to Make and Keep America Great for it's taxpaying, law abiding, legal citizens of all races and religions. Democrats=Communism Never Forget the Americans that have paid the ultimate price for America to be the land of the free. Communism must be eliminated from all of America's political arenas.
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Godstud wrote:@Rich Yes, you're a racist piece of shit. You do not need to keep reminding everyone of it.

I strive to be compassionate with low intelligence posters like this. Ever since junior school I've been noted for well above average intelligence, so I try to imagine what it would be like to have much lower logic, memory, and other mental skills. i guess throwing around childish playground level insults is really all they can do. :) Lets examine the post that provoked this response. :lol: I use the word provoked liberally. Discussing things with a Cultural Marxist is a bit like discussing things with a Medieval monarch, Joseph Stalin or Adolph Hitler, the smallest thing can provoke them into a child ish rage.
Commemorating one dead repeat criminal who died of a heart attack, apparently is a lot more important than the deaths of 3000 odd people incinerated or buried under rubble.

Now note my short little post, that so challenged our responder, was addressing the relative weight, the objective significance, the required response to two events. A more intelligent poster could have attempted to challenge my relative weighting of these events. Perhaps tried to make the case that we should override our intuitions. "Common sense" is not always correct. However that is probably a level of nuance way beyond this poster here.

It also requires time and a certain mental discipline. As man you don't always have to be super bright to end up in a position of power, privilege and status. For a male westerner you don't even have to be all that wealthy, if you move to a less developed country, and as long as you don't rock the boat, and you collude with the systems of power, privilege, oppression and entrenched status, you can have a comfortable life. Its easy to find a wife who is at at such huge power disadvantage that they have to humour what ever nonsense comes out of your mouth. The right man just expects people to defer to his opinions. He gets used to it.

However this is still a valuable response. Sometime the rude, aggressive and boorish response of the less intelligent poster can be more revealing than one from a more intelligent, knowledgeable and informed poster. Because he is essentially arguing that.

Anyone who thinks that 9/11 was an objectively more significant event than the death of George Floyd is a racist piece of shit. :lol:

Such is the demented dogma at which we have arrived.
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Truly less than intelligent posters resort to conspiracy theories like "Cultural Marxism", and such, to dismiss their own racism and ignorance.

Rich wrote:Sometime the rude, aggressive and boorish response of the less intelligent poster can be more revealing than one from a more intelligent, knowledgeable and informed poster.
Practice what you preach. You have no problem making rude, aggressive and boorishly racist posts.

Rich wrote:Anyone who thinks that 9/11 was an objectively more significant event than the death of George Floyd is a racist piece of shit. :lol:
You are the first to try to compare the two. Others have been comparing the deaths of Covid-19 and the possible deaths that could arise from commemorating deaths. In other words, commemorating deaths by putting alive people at risk of contracting a potentially deadly disease.
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Godstud wrote:There never was a jihad, or Sharia law in USA. It was Islamophobic nonsense.


Huh? You're saying al-Qaeda and ISIS did not declare war against the USA?
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Unthinking Majority wrote:Huh? You're saying al-Qaeda and ISIS did not declare war against the USA?
Irrelevant. American have had more to fear from home-grown terrorism than ISIS or Al-Qaeda. Sharia law fears were rubbish, as well. No basis in reality.

Not sure why it's so hard to safely set up some beams of life to honour the dead. I can see them canceling formal ceremonies, but it's just some lights.
I agree, but I see the reasoning behind it, even if it might be a weak argument against having the celebration.
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Godstud wrote:More people have died from Covid-19 in New York, than people died in 9/11. That's simply fact. 23,610 deaths in New York City, alone.


So? People die in large numbers from a lot of things.

Godstud wrote:Priorities. Why are remembering dead people more important than preserving the lives of those who live? No one's about to forget 9/11, so it's all just a "big show".


I am actually not in favor of having the light show at all because I feel that it invokes trauma in a lot of people and the idea that they can't do it because some guys might catch the coronavirus is just insulting.

On the other hand, it is a pretty cool display, it makes a lot of people happy and it puts puts guys back to work. Plus with events being canceled for so long it will be a good thing for all these out of work electricians and stagehands to have a bit of work.

Godstud wrote:You're an idiot if you think that it's psychological. :knife:


A vast number of Americans are experiencing severe psychological disorders such as mass hysteria, paranioa, fear, depression, etc. This is being caused by nonstop barrage of the fear mongering media. Just the mere coverage of something like this night after night is bound to have a profound attack on a lot of people.





Godstud wrote:There never was a jihad, or Sharia law in USA. It was Islamophobic nonsense.


There were certainly a lot of media outlets, think tanks and propagandists who really wanted us to think that there was. I noticed that a few years ago they just completely stopped talking about it and found it curious. Perhaps Islamic terrorists in the Middle East just stopped wanting to blow things up in America for now. Maybe they are all staying home and wearing their masks because they are scared of catching the coronavirus.

Well, it's back on now anyways.

9/11 Memorial and Museum goes ahead with Tribute in Lights in embarrassing flip-flop over coronavirus cancellatio


Pressured by politicians and public-safety unions, red-faced 9/11 Memorial leaders reversed course Saturday and said they’ll go ahead with this year’s Tribute in Lights commemoration of the Sept. 11 attacks.

The change came two days after the 9/11 Memorial and Museum called off the display over coronavirus concerns — and a day after the Stephen Siller Tunnel to Towers Foundation launched an effort to save this year’s event.

“In the last 24 hours we’ve had conversations with many interested parties and believe we will be able to stage the tribute in a safe and appropriate fashion,” 9/11 Memorial and Museum President and CEO Alice M. Greenwald said in a statement on Saturday.



A factor in the change was a decision by former Mayor Mike Bloomberg to help fund the display. The display also won backing from the state and the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation.

After the issue hit the front page of the Daily News on Saturday, Memorial brass apparently reached out for help from Bloomberg — who chairs its board — as well as Gov. Cuomo.

Bloomberg and Cuomo came through.

“The Tribute in Light (is) a powerful symbol of New York’s recovery after 9/11,” Bloomberg said. “I am pleased that once again it will shine this year.”
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maz wrote:A vast number of Americans are experiencing severe psychological disorders such as mass hysteria, paranioa, fear, depression, etc. This is being caused by nonstop barrage of the fear mongering media. Just the mere coverage of something like this night after night is bound to have a profound attack on a lot of people.



I haven't watched network nightly news in years but I happened to see an ABC World News Tonight With David Muir last week and the fearmongering was just over the top ridiculous. Full retard histrionics. If I was a braindead on a steady diet of mockingbird disinformation fear porn I'd be freaking out too.
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The 9/11 attacks were not terrorism and its absurd to suggest they were. There was never any question of Al Qaeda terrorising us into paying the Jizya. The Bolsheviks were terrorists and consciously sought to rule through terror. They were following in the tradition of the French Revolution. The Taliban and Saddam were also terrorists. They ruled through terror not consent.
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maz wrote:So? People die in large numbers from a lot of things.
:eek: Wow. That is literally the dumbest thing I've seen anyone say in a long time. Can you take a moment to realize how stupid that is?

So if 9/11 could have been prevented, trying to stop it would have been a waste of time because "people die in large numbers from a lot of things"?

People do things to prevent people from dying in large numbers all the time.
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Those lights looked pretty cool in the city when I was living there.

Sivad wrote:The fakewads found a new fake threat to fake each other out on.


Yep, they're called Russia and China.

maz wrote:There were certainly a lot of media outlets, think tanks and propagandists who really wanted us to think that there was. I noticed that a few years ago they just completely stopped talking about it and found it curious.


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