Tainari88 wrote:Having a shortage of people to process voter's ballots or mail in voting paperwork because it might not favor you in some states and you pressure them because of it. Then turning around and favoring mail in voting because it might favor you in other states? Is being a very partisan asshole BJ. That is Trump. Forget about democracy. You are dealing with a mafia style tactic with the Republicans.
Trump is okay with absentee voting, or at least he says so. He opposed a general mail-in election. I think that's a wise position, because there is a huge chain-of-custody problem having a federal service in charge of local balloting. Any screw up by the post office--which is known for screw ups--can materially affect the outcome of the election. The Democrats prefer this strategy not for safety, but rather to stuff the ballot box. This is why the US needs voter identification. Every other major democracy has voter ID (the sort of come on argument we get with respect to socialized medicine constantly).
Tainari88 wrote:People don't just show up to sign up to vote without ever showing anyone an ID or a birth certificate and a social security card and picture ID initially BJ.
In California they certainly do. There is no requirement for any identification in California whatsoever. I've pulled out my driver's license at a voting booth only to be told that there is no requirement. You can get a provisional ballot on election day.
Tainari88 wrote:Voter fraud is very low in the USA.
So you believe Atlanta has had a Democrat mayor for 141 years, because the people there have just loved Democrats that long?
Tainari88 wrote:In fact, the USA's problem is not enough people making the effort.
A lot of people don't feel passionate about politics, because politicians never do anything for them. I'm only interested, because they take so much money from me in taxes. Yet, they do very little for me for the money I pay them.
Tainari88 wrote:With this pandemic? How the hell can anyone in their right mind be against legal ballots for mail-in voting, when the United States Post Office is talking about being underfunded because the head of the Postal Service is there because he owns competing businesses and wants the government USPS to go under financially so he can become rich?
I use an absentee ballot, and I always drop it off at city hall. I never put it in the mail.
Tainari88 wrote:It is bribery. Plain and simple.
Bribery is a public official accepting a personal emolument in exchange for a public act. This is self-interest plain and simple.
Tainari88 wrote:I am beginning to think you love the possibility of some kind of authoritarian dictatorship BJ.
I'm living in one right now. The California legislature is doing nothing to pass laws for fighting the Wuhan coronavirus, instead letting the governor and local officials run things arbitrarily so that they ban church, ban singing in church, ban walking on the dry sand on the beach, but not on the wet sand, etc. We are living in an authoritarian dictatorship. You wouldn't know, because you bailed out of the US some time ago.
Tainari88 wrote:Let people vote from the comfort of their homes. If they have established home addresses and they are consistent voters? Why question the mail-ins?
It's easy to stuff the ballot with mail in voting.
Tainari88 wrote:If I can vote from a foreign country why can't Americans who live stateside can't have an easy time voting in their home state? Putting up these stupid barriers to a very safe and effective voting system is for people who want a lack of democratic processes to triumph.
We've been subject to four years of "Russia! Russia! Russia!" What is to stop a foreign country from sabotaging the election by simply replicating US ballots and flooding the system with phony ballots via mail? This is why people have problems with electronic voting too. It's not about opposing convenience, it's because we know people cheat here.
Tainari88 wrote:If you want a damn dictatorship bad enough BJ you will get one.
I already have one. What makes you think I'm not subject to dictatorial rule right now?
Tainari88 wrote:It makes no sense except for people who hate democracy and just want to keep power away from their political enemies because they are shitting their pants that their point of view is in the minority for the next fifty years. Which is your case BJ.
I haven't claimed my point of view is the majority at any point. I have a fairly unique point of view, which is to say I actually have a point of view. Most people are merely subscribers to a party line or an ideological line. They are unable to think for themselves. Again, this is why I'm one of the few people you can talk to about Puerto Rico, because I'm probably one of the few people you've ever spoken with who has actually read Downes v. Bidwell.