late wrote:Any audit is completely irrelevant
His taxes are irrelevant. What's relevant is that he's the first US president to come to the White House straight from the private sector, because the public no longer trusts establishment politicians or the media. You folks have had four years to reflect on the effects of free trade agreements, illegal aliens, the opioid epidemic, flat wages and so forth and modify your policies. You've doubled down by pushing against Trump on free trade, offering free health care to illegal aliens and fighting against a wall that most politicians voted for as recently as 2006, providing drugs to people at government expense during the pandemic, and threatening to raise corporate taxes well above those around the OECD again. That's what's relevant, and you chose not to address it. Now you will face the music again, as nobody is interested in your character assassination schemes.
late wrote:The question is why Americans would want to vote a conman into the White House?
Trump is still the lesser of two evils. You can see that if you look at Biden's pedigree and who controls him, but you are choosing not to do that. Support for Trump has never been about his character. That's why trying to destroy his character is pointless.
jimjam wrote:They obviously show him to be, at best,an expert at going bankrupt and working a stacked deck that favors billionaires ... not the conned masses he pretends to look out for.
Think of most US startups. Think of the billions of losses accrued by Uber for example. Look how much money Facebook lost before it went public. I've been part of startups that never made money and got bought by large corporations with huge goodwill, because of their potential. Guess who writes off those losses when they acquire the company? Big corporation? You guessed it.
Beren wrote:Sure, he didn't (have to) pay taxes, which may not have been his fault if he just managed to avoid taxes legally. I wonder if he's going to turn it to his advantage in a debate arguing that he couldn't do much about it as president (because that's what actually matters) because of Congress.
He already did with Hillary Clinton in 2016. They cannot publish his returns without probably facing criminal prosecution, so they are just rehashing the story line from 2016. Hillary, "You didn't pay any taxes even though you made millions from your TV show." Trump, "because I'm smart."
ingliz wrote:A failure as a businessman, that much is a given.
You have no idea why people will create businesses that are losing money from the outset. All startups are failures until they are successful, because all of them are losing money initially.
ingliz wrote:He won the presidency when all is said and done.
Yes, but not because Trump is a conman. It's because both parties bought off on free trade and illegal immigration, and Trump was able to take up the issue and monopolize it. They gave Trump a monopoly on those issues in 2020 too. By contrast, the Democrats fought amongst themselves for who would outdo Bernie on leftism, and even though Biden came in fourth in Iowa, fifth in New Hampshire and second in Nevada, they all dutifully bowed out and threw their support behind the clear loser. Then, Biden picked his VP candidate from one of the candidates who dropped out before voting even began. Now, Biden is campaigning even less than Hillary Clinton in 2016, while Trump is seeing rallies with thousands of attendees all across the battleground states.
"We have put together the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics."
-- Joe Biden