Chad wrote:He even brought up his dead son. Very poor debate tactics from an old career criminal politician.
Well, that stuff used to go off without a hitch. People knew it was phony by the 2000s. By the mid-2000s, Dan Rather destroyed his career and credibility by participating in a phony story about Bush using a phony letter from a high ranking officer, which sharp computer people knew was a fake because the font used did not exist on 1960s era typewriters.
Special interests have colluded with candidates as well. Swift Boat Veterans for Truth undermined John Kerry in a similar manner, but they were not part of a media apparatus working in tandem with a political party.
It was painfully obvious in 2008 with the attacks on Sarah Palin that the establishment worked with the media to serve their ends. In 2012, it was even more clear as Candy Crowley took Obama's side on denying the lies about Benghazi. Romney predictably cucked.
Trump is the one guy who has shown how to turn that on its head. By debating and attacking Chris Wallace, Trump illustrated that Wallace was clearly on Biden's side, and was desperately trying to stop the inquiry into Hunter Biden, Burisma, Ukraine and Hunter's involvement in investment money from China and Russia. Trump had Biden on the ropes, and Chris Wallace came to Biden's defense numerous times.
Chad wrote:President Trump was trying to respond to Biden's attacks and lies.
The notion that Trump called troops "losers" and "suckers" was as obviously bullshit as the Trump-Russia collusion theory. However, the establishment has made the calculation that the only way to defeat Trump is to try to undermine political support for him among his base by way of attacks on his character while side stepping substantive policy debates. So recapitulating a story that was already considered demonstrably bullshit and then try to bring up a "poor me, my dead son served in Iraq and you called him a loser and a sucker" was clearly insincere, and left Trump with the opportunity to take another swipe at Hunter Biden, triggering Chris Wallace to come to Biden's aid yet again.
Chad wrote:He did not follow the rules very well.
No. He didn't, but if he allowed Biden to take shots and didn't deliver the counter punches, the rules would be enforced to make Trump lose.
JohnRawls wrote:The point of liberal democracy is to live in peace. Liberal democracies do not fight wars or have any serious conflicts between each other because we know how to resolve problems by talking and discussing and not by opression and supression.
Really? The US had a Department of War, and the British had a War Office. Are you one of those who devolves into semantic arguments to defend the idea that liberal democracies don't go to war?
annatar1914 wrote:''Liberal Democracies'' have caused more bloodshed than any other form of government since their inception, and are the destruction of the very societies they take root in.
I would say communism has a darker history in terms of sheer bloodshed.
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-- Joe Biden