Finfinder wrote:Left, liberal, opposition whatever you want to call them. There is no resolving this, look at Drlee and Rancids last posts (or trolls) they want to imprison Republican presidents and don't recognize anything the Republicans legislate. I have said all along for the last 4 years Democrats (the left ) can not govern unless they lie cheat or rig the system. They will never change.
@Finfinder
This is how Civil Wars start. The idea rightly or wrongly that the other side is not agreement capable and is desiring only their opponent's destruction and removal from society.
But here I am on PoFo, with a idiosyncratic political idealism and yet I'm able to have decent conversations with people on all parts of the modern political spectrum.
In 1876, things were a lot worse than now with the Tilden versus Hayes election. Bad memories of the Civil War, and even hotheads talking about another one if their guy didn't get in, in an election that was very obviously rigged against Tilden who really won both the popular and the electoral vote. But they made an ugly and messy compromise nobody liked at the time, which however worked; Hayes for President, and an end to the Federal government's occupation of the South with US Troops.
I don't believe in democracy as such, not anymore. But what I do believe in is peace and civil order. If we can't have that than we all might as well negotiate a peaceful break up of the Union rather than have another civil war.